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Flex:
Bill be sure u turn the knuckles back with this new axle or ur never going to have the correct caster and then u jeep will not track down the road properly.

WillC:
H1 wheels. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=746158

I thought about doing this to the JK but a 16.5 wheel limits tire choice.

skibum:
Thanks for the input Will because I love the BFG KM2's & don't think they come in that rim size. Im shure just the outter beedlock will be fine but must be DOT legal. Will do my research when im ready to buy. But going dubble beedlock. Theres no such thing as overkill.

Not shure where I read this but herd that the Goodyear Mill spec tire is so stiff that it has very little flex even when aired down very low(8psi & less) so running this tire on a light jeep like the TJ compaired to the H1 that these tires were made for might not make it the best choice. I might be wrong on this one tho.

kirksjeep:
Back when I did my axle swaps I also looked into this swap.  I was looking for my notes I made but the cons out weighed the pros when I listed it out.  Here is my pro/con list from memory ( over 2 years ago I looked into this)  When I listed out the costs of swapping in an 8.8 and polishing the D30 it was still a lot less $$$ then the D60/10.25 swap.  Don't under estimate the D30.  A majority of rigs that did the Ultimate Adventure ran the D30 with Chromo Shafts and 37's and none broke.  This is all just my 2 cents.

Pros:
Bullet proof axles
Full width- more stability (also a con see below).
Relatively Cheap to get axles from a JY.
Some write ups, so not starting from scatch.

Cons:
Requires custom front and rear drive shafts
New Rims
New Shocks-  stock won't support the extra weight of the axles
Adapting steering and brakes, plus still rear drum unlike an 8.8 swap.
Extra weight- loose the power to weight ratio that makes a Wrangler good off road
Full Width- won't fit on tight trails and will draw more attention from the po-po
Usually for trailered rigs
Will have to buy all the brakets and mounts for the axles

Bill3753:

--- Quote from: skibum on January 11, 2011, 01:17:14 AM ---Also are you still going to keep this as your daily driver? If so then I see your concern of welding the new brackets to the axels so it aligns correctly.

I did not no that the H1 wheels were dubble beedlocks. Can I get a set of these for my JK with the correct off set after I put the 4.5 in lift on some day & what are the pro's & con's of running the H1 beedlocks??

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I want to be able to use it like a driver, even if it is not.  Most I use it for current is driving 1/4 mile to work and back once and a while, then obviously to the trails.  I want to keep it a driver more then anything because in the summer time my wife and I plan to take the top off to cruise in it on weekends.  Then, randomly I drive it for a week or two everywhere just because I enjoy it.  The Focus we have gets around 40mpg highway though.  Hard to beat that.

You can get the H1 wheels recentered for any bolt pattern with any offset you want.  I've actually been told that the 4 door JK's do well with 6" of lift and 37's.  Might be worth looking into.  Even if you swap tires later on, for $75 each it gets you rolling on 37's and you wouldn't have a hard time selling them on craigslist if you decided you didn't like them.


--- Quote from: skibum on January 11, 2011, 02:31:00 AM ---Not shure where I read this but herd that the Goodyear Mill spec tire is so stiff that it has very little flex even when aired down very low(8psi & less) so running this tire on a light jeep like the TJ compaired to the H1 that these tires were made for might not make it the best choice. I might be wrong on this one tho.

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People complain about them when compairing them to tires that run $300+ each.  Way I look at it is for $75 each it will get me going.  Who knows, I might even like them.  I saw a picture of a Ranger running them with the double beadlocks at about 4-5psi.  They looked like the had nice give to them at low psi.  I have read a ton of complaints though, but once again… for $75 each what you got to loose?


--- Quote from: Flex on January 11, 2011, 01:46:32 AM ---Bill be sure u turn the knuckles back with this new axle or ur never going to have the correct caster and then u jeep will not track down the road properly.

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That is a concern of mine I don’t know the answer to yet.  To be honest, I was hoping being I’m running a small lift and swaping in a HP60 that has a much higher pinion shaft then my LP30 I wouldn’t need much of a pinion angle.  This should let me set my caster first the let the pinion angle fall where it is.  Time will tell and it probably will not work, but I will not know for sure until I get the D30 pulled and mock the HP60 housing under it.

Do you know what the stock pinion angle and caster is for an HP60?  That might let me figure out if I can make it work or not.


--- Quote from: WillC on January 11, 2011, 01:49:02 AM ---H1 wheels. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=746158

I thought about doing this to the JK but a 16.5 wheel limits tire choice.


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Same place I will order the rims from.

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