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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: reg on February 21, 2008, 02:15:27 AM

Title: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 21, 2008, 02:15:27 AM
ok.  so my wheel berings went out on the yj.  advanced said they could only sell me a hub assembly at 170 DOLLARS!!!!  PER SIDE!  this has to be wrong.  didn't have time to go to AZ.  Is this correct?!  if it is I'll be salvaging the bearings off the spare axle then.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Seabee_BUC on February 21, 2008, 02:18:27 AM
WOW!! I'd check around....Does it make better sense to replace the whole assembly while its apart??? I've never changed Wheel Bearings....
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 21, 2008, 02:20:51 AM
the assembly doesn't wear.  it's cast iron for the most part.  only the bearing really move.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Axle on February 21, 2008, 02:29:51 AM
That has got to be wrong.  A bearing is a bearing is a bearing...  Try Bumper to Bumper, AZ, and Napa.  Look at a Chiltons and it should give you the part number you need.  You can also try Quadrarape, at least to find the part.  They have IPB's of the axle's in thier mags and online under "replacement parts". 
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 02:33:12 AM
you talkin' fronts?

front wheel bearings on the Dana 30 are a sealed hub unit, the entire unit must be replaced, there's no serviceable bearings.

$170 isn't a bad price for local.  I've gotten them on ebay in the past for around $100
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Axle on February 21, 2008, 02:39:39 AM
Ouch.  :-\


Welcome to my world, Reg.


*Looks around and hides the broken axle shaft.*  ;D
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 02:41:01 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-99-HUB-BEARING-JEEP-WRANGLER-CHEROKEE-513084-m_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33728QQihZ020QQitemZ300199086670QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

$39 + $13 shipping
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Axle on February 21, 2008, 02:42:39 AM
So that bolts directly onto the flange on the end of the housing?
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 02:43:25 AM
if you can't wait, autozone has one for $71

http://www.autozone.com/R,APP1059549/vehicleId,1076002/initialAction,partProductDetail/store,5107/partType,00894/shopping/partProductDetail.htm
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 02:44:55 AM
So that bolts directly onto the flange on the end of the housing?

it bolts into the steering knuckle
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: ToxicTurtle on February 21, 2008, 03:45:19 AM
getting the old ones off is the real pain.
and what he said. Yup, must replace the whole unit.    :-\
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 03:47:12 AM
lots of hammer and chisel

oh, and when you put the new one on, completely coat it with anti-seize

mine come off real easy now.  :)
of course, when you're changing axle shafts every other weekend, it doesn't have time to seize anyway
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 21, 2008, 04:02:11 AM
thanks al!
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Doball on February 21, 2008, 12:37:36 PM
Good Luck! For $340 from Advanced, I'd start looking into an entire axle upgrade!!  ;D
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: mallcrawl on February 21, 2008, 02:35:54 PM
cheapest kits I found to replace those dammed unit bearing with servicable ones go about $700 of course they also provide front lockout hubs
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 21, 2008, 04:56:52 PM
Good Luck! For $340 from Advanced, I'd start looking into an entire axle upgrade!!  ;D

I know!!!   >:(  about the cost of an old 44
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: albsvx on February 21, 2008, 04:58:47 PM
which, as far as I know, usually still use unit bearings.  :)
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: HOT-ROD on February 21, 2008, 06:04:59 PM
wow, that sucks, rich had to do the same thing on the dodge. wasn't as expensive if i recall correctly.

we can do the swap out at the AZ parking lot. how cool would that be? LOL!!
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Doball on February 21, 2008, 07:15:39 PM
which, as far as I know, usually still use unit bearings.  :)

Depends, my okd CJ had a '77 scout D44's, I replaced the bearings on it.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: One-Eye on February 21, 2008, 10:52:48 PM
I am sure you know already but the hub nut is a 36mm.  If you need the socket let me know, I have it.  When we did Capt's, and Cheeks (I think it was cheeks) it made it a lot easier to leave the bolts on the inside of the hub unit (behind the break calipers is) in a little bit and hit the back of them.  You may want to get some new hardware before because we pretty much killed Capt's when doing it but it came out pretty easy after that.  If you need a hand just let me know.  It really isn't that hard to do.  Like Al said, when you go to put it back in anti-sieze the hell out of it and it comes out a lot easier then.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: HOT-ROD on February 21, 2008, 10:55:59 PM
rich,

remember we had to use my high lift to break the hub nut? it was a good day
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: One-Eye on February 21, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
hahahaha hi-lifts are cool :o
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Rebell Bull on February 22, 2008, 06:49:29 AM
R you all forgetting about big bertha. Reg you will be paying around 100 for each. I replaced both of mine. You can get the cheaper ones if you want, they should work. And yes, Al is right antisieze the shit out of them. If you leave the breaks on to break the nut free, you can have someone step on the breaks, come up to shop and borrow Big Bertha. Use her to break it free and you don't send shit flying, break or damage anything and u don't sweat alot.  The whole job I can do in about 20 min per side at the shop if no one stops me or gets in my way. We just did a bearing on Erick's deisel tonight while working on Axle's driveshaft. And yes you will probably need hammer and chisle. We have done them up at the shop as a club too on either a yellow jeep or Ben's rig, I can't remember. We put axle shaft seals on the same rig, it was one of the days where we worked on like four vehicles in one day.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 22, 2008, 06:08:34 PM
I am sure you know already but the hub nut is a 36mm.  If you need the socket let me know, I have it.  When we did Capt's, and Cheeks (I think it was cheeks) it made it a lot easier to leave the bolts on the inside of the hub unit (behind the break calipers is) in a little bit and hit the back of them.  You may want to get some new hardware before because we pretty much killed Capt's when doing it but it came out pretty easy after that.  If you need a hand just let me know.  It really isn't that hard to do.  Like Al said, when you go to put it back in anti-sieze the hell out of it and it comes out a lot easier then.

have one   ;)
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 22, 2008, 06:10:12 PM
R you all forgetting about big bertha. Reg you will be paying around 100 for each. I replaced both of mine. You can get the cheaper ones if you want, they should work. And yes, Al is right antisieze the shit out of them. If you leave the breaks on to break the nut free, you can have someone step on the breaks, come up to shop and borrow Big Bertha. Use her to break it free and you don't send shit flying, break or damage anything and u don't sweat alot.  The whole job I can do in about 20 min per side at the shop if no one stops me or gets in my way. We just did a bearing on Erick's deisel tonight while working on Axle's driveshaft. And yes you will probably need hammer and chisle. We have done them up at the shop as a club too on either a yellow jeep or Ben's rig, I can't remember. We put axle shaft seals on the same rig, it was one of the days where we worked on like four vehicles in one day.

what does tomarrow look like??
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: HOT-ROD on February 22, 2008, 10:25:34 PM
cruise day.
other than that, nothing for me.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 22, 2008, 10:45:52 PM
i thought today was thurs...   :-[
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: HOT-ROD on February 22, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
you had duty on thursday. welcomto time machine boat duty.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Rebell Bull on February 24, 2008, 04:42:46 AM
would have been fine, but didn't get the message.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 24, 2008, 04:46:41 AM
would have been fine, but didn't get the message.

 i wound up helping somone move.  I didn't get home untl 3 somthing THIS MORNING!  so I had some sleep to catch up on.   :-\

might try next week.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: Rebell Bull on February 24, 2008, 04:52:51 AM
Sure after my lift.
Title: Re: throwing in the flag!
Post by: reg on February 24, 2008, 05:00:28 AM
Sure after my lift.

duh  ::)    ;D