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No bus and no start
Mayhem:
So, I went to leave home in the TJ Saturday morning and it started just fine. Finished backing out and put it in drive, gassed it and it died. Gauges were still working and it cranked. Wouldn't start though. Then gauges all died and the no bus came up on the odometer. Looked on line and saw that it is often connection problem to the instrument cluster. So today I removed it and checked the connections and grounds and all seemed good. Moved and looked at all the harnesses. Seem fine. Still NO start/no bus. Could be a crank position sensor as well. This sucks. Anybody had experience with this problem?
Burnt Rubi:
I've read somewhere in the past that is an issue with dash plug connection coming loose. Tap/gently beat on the instrument cluster or disassemble and check the connector.
kirksjeep:
I thought I had this problem on my XJ, but it turned out to be a bad guage cluster. When I was looking into it, here was a service bulletin that replaced the elctircal connection that goes to the cluster. If you google it you can find the part number. I think it was under $15 from the Jeep dealer and it took about 15 minutes to install. You will need to cut and connect all the wires, but it is not as difficult as it looks. A little heat shrink will make it good as new.
Good Luck.
kirksjeep:
Greg- a few questions for you to try and help you troubleshoot.
1. Do you have a grey key or a black one? The grey one has the chip in it which can cuase some problems.
2. Will it run for 2 seconds and shut off or not start at all?
Check out the link to a similarly set up Jeep and the advice out there
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407739
It sounds like the most likely cause is the cam sensor based on your description and it sounds like unplugging it will remove the No Bus indication and if so then it is the sensor. Keep us informed and we can keep trying to help.
If it is the guage connector they list the part number. They also list numbers for heat shrink tube and some other crap that you wouldn't need.
It looks like if it is the Camshaft Sensor it is only $42- $87 depending on brand.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PartSearchCmd?storeId=10151&catalogId=10051&pageId=partTypeList&suggestion=&actionSrc=Suggest&langId=-1&searchTerm=camshaft+sensor&vehicleIdSearch=42449&searchedFrom=header#storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&vehicleIdSearch=42449&isAllVehicle=false&navigationPath=&sortBy=4&searchTerm=camshaft+sensor&pageId=ajaxPartList&category=&l1_categoryId=&l2_categoryId=&partType=&beginIndex=0&filterValue=vehicleId1%3A42449*exact&pageSize=10&filters=&selectedPartNumber=&qty=1&ship2HomeClicked=
Mayhem:
Thanks Kirk!
Okay.... 1- I have the black key and 2- It won't start/run at all.
Something weird happened tonight while I was looking at it. The turn signal was going very fast and wouldn't stop. Only slowed down when switched. Also, the hazard switch seemed to effect it. Changing the tilt column level made the weird stuff stop happening.
I will check it out more and look at the links you provided and post here what I find.
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