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Bill's 1 Ton TJ Build
Bill3753:
I had seen that kit and thought it looked good too. It will really all depend on how the axles come out. I already have most of the parts for them either on order or picked out. I want both axles internally exactly how I want them before I start the swap. Originally, I was going to do lincoln lockers in both to save money for the swap. The problem with that is it isn't really what I wanted especially since the main goal of my build is to keep it streetable. So, I bought the detroit for the rear 14 bolt and last night I bought an Eaton E-Locker for the front. This will give me a very nice selectable locker for the front and a good strong locker for the rear. I'll easily be able to drive it on the street without problems. Most of all, I will have both axles exactly how I want them and will not have to mess with swapping carriers, ect. in the future.
I called Clayton today and talked to them about options for stretching it with 37's and not having to do a comp cut. They recommended going with a 5" stretch, but nothing more. This way I don't have to cut the body like crazy and I can still run an fuel cell under it. I was thinking of going with a 7" stretch, but they say that would require a fuel cell in the rear cargo area and a full comp cut. Both are not what I want. Right now, I am looking seriously at their "5 Inch Stretch Rear Upgrade Kit" which runs right at $1249.00. I still need to talk options with them though as I want something that would be a whole package. Upper and lower spring mounts, axle side lower control arm mounts, 4 link truss with upper mounts, frame side mounts, the control arms and shock mounts. That is really what I need. The kit above have all of that minus the lower control arms mounts and axle side coil spring mount. It also comes with a few items I don't need like the frame notch kit for outboard shocks. I don't really need it because since I am going to run full width axles, I will have the room for outboard shocks without notching the frame. I want to see if they would do a package deal on something closer to my needs.
Once the weather breaks and the roads are clean I will go get the rear axle. I found one for $100.00 about 40 minutes away. Crappy weather has just kept me from going to get it. Same thing with the tires. Have them found and on hold for $300.00, just need to go get them.
So, for those following along this is what I'm looking at overall to date:
Front:
79 Ford HP60 Front Full Width
5.13 Gears w/ Timken Install Kit
Eaton E-Locker
TNT Truss w/ all mounts
Crossover Steering (Tie Rod on the knuckle/Drag Link Over the Knuckle)
Custom Track bar
Rusty's Radius Type Long Arms (Picked up on eBay super cheap)
Spicer U-Joints
Spicer Lock Outs
Stock Axle Shafts 35 spline inner/30 spline outer
New Seals
Probably my own custom creation of a modified/welded stock diff cover
Maybe a little shave/grinding for ground clearance???
Rear:
Corp 14 Bolt (New Style)
5.13 Gears w/ Timken Install Kit
Disc Brake Conversion
Detroit Locker
That is basically where the definite parts of the build end.
Everything else is still in the works and planning stages.
Bill3753:
So, went this weekend and picked up my new tires. Somehow, the pictures I'm posting don't have them in it, but they are some cool pics. I mainly just wanted to brag about eating at Geno's and Pat's in Philly.
Also, I was just about as lucky as you can get to find a spot in South Philly to park with a trailer, let alone being able to find a spot twice with one time being smack dab in front of Geno's.
Bill3753:
Well, as of March 6, 2011 my TJ is officially off the road and my build has started.
Day one I took a few pictures of my starting point and pulled the Dana 44 rear axle.
14 Bolt with the tubes cleaned up for mock up. I am going to tack everything in place on it under the Jeep at ride height. After that, I will cycle the suspension to make sure nothing is binding following which I will weld it all solid. To finish it off I'll clean the rest of the axle up and paint it all. Finally I'll install the gears, locker, axles, and new disc brake kit prior to final installation.
Here are some pictures of the rear suspension prior to tearing into it:
I forgot to take some pictures of the end of the first day, but basically I got the rear axle out. All the arms, sway bar, lines, gas tank ect. all remained. These are pictures following my efforts tonight. Everything is just about pulled and I'm almost ready to start cutting. (LOOK AT ALL THAT ROOM ABOVE THE TRANSFER CASE!!!)
BlacXJeep:
Nice progress man, cant wait to get my deployement over with so I can start my new project ;D
Swagger:
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The things I have not quite figured out yet is what to do for the steering. I have a whole steering set up from an old fullsize Ford already. I don’t know if I can take parts for it and make it work in my TJ? I’m not sold on building a OTK steering set up as yet, but who knows. Also, I need to figure out if the current location of my gas tank will clear the Sterling 10.25 Rear. After I get it all in there, I will get the drive shafts made. I already have a Super Short SYE and a few other parts I needed anyways. I will install them as I do this build. No point in doing it all then pulling it all apart again .
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Dude, you have to cionsidr the backspacing of those H1 beadlocks hugging you steeering components. I'm consider damn near the same build up, but with an 8.8 and a HP44, and custom H1 beadlocks but with 3.5 inch backspacing and a 5 inch stretch. I guess its easier for me down here in texas though. No fender laws. i can run Comp corners and hi finders with no snuff from the fuzz. as far as yiour rig goes, you might want to consider a PSC Full Hydro set-up. From what i have read and heard, they are surprisingly stereetable, and it sounds like you dont drive your rig on the street TOO often, so it might be a suitable set-up. just my 2 lincolns.
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