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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2009, 04:32:25 AM »
Cost Break Down: 3 inserts $45 + $4 shipping
Tie Rod Boots+ Steering Stabilizer Boot-FREE ( used the 4wd hardware spend $10 get $10 off back in December)+ $5 shipping
Total:  $54

TJ's and I think XJ's only need 2 inserts so it would be a little cheaper.  If you buy 2 inserts they are $20 each, but if you buy 3 they are only $15 each.  If a couple of guys get together it would only be $30 for a TJ.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 05:47:23 PM »
wow.  that might jump to the top of my list. if and when i get them, maybe we could hook up for some wrench time. Sounds like you got the process down pact.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 12:59:10 AM »
I forgot to add a 3/4" drill bit for $20, but the one I bought looks like it is still in good shape after drilling the three holes.  I still need to make a spacer to boost up the steering stabilzer, but I have a few ideas.  When I am done I'll post up some pics.
1992 YJ Sahara, 4.5 Rubicon Express ED Lift, 35" BFG MT, Custom Bumpers, SYE/CV Drive Shaft, OBA, Ford 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears, tie rod flip, 1"MML/BL
2002 KJ Liberty, 2" Lift, 31" tires/DD
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2009, 12:52:41 AM »
well. i think im going to be joining the high steer club after this pacheck.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2009, 01:23:23 PM »
well. i think im going to be joining the high steer club after this pacheck.
did you check your pa yet?

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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 10:40:22 PM »
Could I do this with my 3 inch lift? How would it effect my geometry? I just picked up the ZJ V8 steering today, and I was thinking about waiting to swap it in, if it would be beneficial to me to do this while I'm at it. What do you think?
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 02:55:28 AM »
I'm not exactly sure the interferance is on TJ/XJ but it might be worth emailing them to find out.  It will help the steering geometry get back closer to stock.  With 3" of lift and a tie rod flip you might not even need a pitman arm drop.
1992 YJ Sahara, 4.5 Rubicon Express ED Lift, 35" BFG MT, Custom Bumpers, SYE/CV Drive Shaft, OBA, Ford 8.8 rear, 4.10 gears, tie rod flip, 1"MML/BL
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2009, 03:39:13 AM »
I'm not exactly sure the interferance is on TJ/XJ but it might be worth emailing them to find out.  It will help the steering geometry get back closer to stock.  With 3" of lift and a tie rod flip you might not even need a pitman arm drop.

Most of what I've read says that you need to use a stock pitman arm with TJ and XJ flips unless you're above 5" of lift, then you can use a longer one if you already have it on. To flip both sides on a XJ or TJ you also have to move your sway bar brackets and track bar bracket on the axle since they will be in the way. I've been doing some reading on this subject and I may just do the flip on the driver's side. It will make the tie rod straight across rather than at the angle it currently is and get it up and out of the way since the passenger side is already higher than the driver's side stock. It also won't interfere with drag link angles by doing it this way.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2009, 06:54:16 PM »
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2009, 11:46:25 PM »
Spike TV Trucks shows tie rod flip on XJ. probably going to do this
http://www.spike.com/full-episode/cheep-cherokee-part/33784
they also show other episodes with 4.0 stroker build, and long arm install
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2009, 01:30:51 AM »
duece im pretty sure on that episode they are using the rusty's aftermarket kit which is a little different, and i believe that is why they didnt have to push the track bar and sway bar mounts back.

i think im going to go with the jcr 1 ton steering and stay under the knuckle bc with the 1 tons it dosent matter if u hit rocks ull be fine well for the most part.

heres a link.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=1TNST&Category_Code=S6
2000 XJ Sport 6.5 inch TNT Longarms, 36" IROK Radials, HP dana 30, Ford 8.8 aussie locker, 4.10s, front bumper with stinger and 9500 mile maker winch, Rock Sliders, OBA. full exo cage, chopped.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2009, 01:40:48 AM »
. Yeah I didn't catch that. JCR setup is nice but pricey, I'll stick with my V8 ZJ steering and carry a stock setup as a spare for now.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2009, 05:43:19 PM »
duece im pretty sure on that episode they are using the rusty's aftermarket kit which is a little different, and i believe that is why they didnt have to push the track bar and sway bar mounts back.

i think im going to go with the jcr 1 ton steering and stay under the knuckle bc with the 1 tons it dosent matter if u hit rocks ull be fine well for the most part.

heres a link.

http://www.jcroffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=1TNST&Category_Code=S6

I talked to Brian from JCR on the phone the other day to get his opinion on going OTK or staying UTK with my TJ. He said you can do it either way, but the OTK is much better for steering angles and he doesn't know of anybody that even has to use a stabilizer with the OTK set up. I'm thinking JCR myself right now. I should stop in their shop while I'm home this week just to catch up with the guys.
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2009, 10:04:58 PM »
for my steering on my 1tons(if i ever put them in) i am using somthing like this
http://www.stonecrushersteering.com/index.html
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Re: High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2009, 02:25:27 AM »
found these for ppl that dont want to have to drill out the knuckles, what do u guys think they seem to be as strong as 1 tons. i wounder if u will have to move the track bar and sway bar mounts back still?

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IROR&Product_Code=IR-TOTKS&Category_Code=XST
2000 XJ Sport 6.5 inch TNT Longarms, 36" IROK Radials, HP dana 30, Ford 8.8 aussie locker, 4.10s, front bumper with stinger and 9500 mile maker winch, Rock Sliders, OBA. full exo cage, chopped.
2005 F-150

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