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Title: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 03, 2009, 10:19:46 PM
So Saturday night Kirk helped me put Rogers old BFG ATs on my wheels. I had already taken the stock fender flares off, so It looked pretty sick. Kirk even tried a trick he saw on monster garage, involving an aluminum baseball bat and my fenders haha. So when I cut the wheel trying to back out of Kirks driveway, I was startled by some rubbing, but we figured it was the tires rubbing on the LCA's or something. I drove to drill all the way up at Bradley on Sunday, and everytime I took a sharp turn they would rub like crazy. But as it turns out I soon figured out it was only the inner bottom part of the fender, so I did some shoddy saws all work in there and it fixed the problem. heres pics of what I cut and the new look of the XJ.

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2dkz7n9.jpg)

(http://i27.tinypic.com/n69s78.jpg)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/10o4ch0.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/ifd9gp.jpg)

(http://i31.tinypic.com/2rwrdjc.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2s1vjnn.jpg)

Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 03, 2009, 10:30:26 PM
looks good.  you forgot one "custom" thing.  you should get vanity plates for it.  sonce you have the veteran plates get ones that say "FLSHBK"  LOL
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 03, 2009, 11:57:59 PM
naa if anything it would be "DEUCE"
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: kirksjeep on August 04, 2009, 01:49:48 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 02:07:28 AM
See you didn't even need my help trimming the fenders.  But lets do the bar pin and blocks this weekend.  Txt me your schedule.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 04, 2009, 02:43:31 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 02:50:25 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.

I have the torches, and impacts ready :D
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 04, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.

I have the torches, and impacts ready :D

Sweet, i'll get over there soon, just have alot going on this weekend. Midevil Manor in Boston on saturday and have to help my dad with a CPS on my stepmoms malibu sunday. But yes we shall have a "beers and gears day" soon.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 03:12:42 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.

I have the torches, and impacts ready :D

Sweet, i'll get over there soon, just have alot going on this weekend. Midevil Manor in Boston on saturday and have to help my dad with a CPS on my stepmoms malibu sunday. But yes we shall have a "beers and gears day" soon.

Is that a 3.8 in the malibu??
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 04, 2009, 03:35:42 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.

I have the torches, and impacts ready :D

Sweet, i'll get over there soon, just have alot going on this weekend. Midevil Manor in Boston on saturday and have to help my dad with a CPS on my stepmoms malibu sunday. But yes we shall have a "beers and gears day" soon.

Is that a 3.8 in the malibu??

Not sure, its older like a 99 or something
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 03:37:03 AM
Looks even better in the day light! ;D

It really does, and I even did a small amount of wheeling over some fallen trees at a friends house, and didn't even rub too bad. another inch and a half and some more trimming and I'll be all set.

I have the torches, and impacts ready :D

Sweet, i'll get over there soon, just have alot going on this weekend. Midevil Manor in Boston on saturday and have to help my dad with a CPS on my stepmoms malibu sunday. But yes we shall have a "beers and gears day" soon.

Is that a 3.8 in the malibu??

Not sure, its older like a 99 or something

may be a 3.1 then.  check into it, because the 3.8 requires a special tool to set the air gap on the cps.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 04, 2009, 03:39:14 AM
i know he broke the first one he tried to put in. lol
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 03:41:58 AM
let me know i have the tools if you need them.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: reptile610 on August 04, 2009, 04:40:36 AM
looks good, hows ur flex now though?
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 04, 2009, 05:03:43 AM
looks good, hows ur flex now though?

he didn't change the suspension, so it's the same as before.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: reptile610 on August 04, 2009, 01:58:07 PM
well i mean since it's the bigger tires wont he get less flex due to the fact that he has less room in the fender wells?
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 04, 2009, 10:27:10 PM
yeah, but thats why I still have trimming to do :) and another inch and a half to add.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 05, 2009, 02:28:14 AM
flex is overrrated.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 05, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
Your XJ looks great with the 33s on it. You probably need to trim a little bit more, but I would invest in some bumpstops. Even with 6.5" of lift they would still rub the fenders hard in my XJ. It was one of those things on my list that I never got around to.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 05, 2009, 04:59:24 PM
Yeah that's on my list of things to do also. I'm really happy with the tires, they ride nice and give it a more aggressive stance. Is your TJ already lifted and so forth? What size tires are you running on that?
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 05, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
Yeah that's on my list of things to do also. I'm really happy with the tires, they ride nice and give it a more aggressive stance. Is your TJ already lifted and so forth? What size tires are you running on that?

Yes, the TJ I bought has 3" lift springs and 33" BFG MTs under it. I'll try to take a pic sometime this week and provide all the stats.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 05, 2009, 08:18:20 PM
Ok, so it already has 33s. good. Would have felt bad if I had taken tires you could have used.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 05, 2009, 10:22:47 PM
Ok so I got up this morning and decided to be constructive. Or destructive depending on how you want to look at it. Regardless, I got up the courage to chop up my rear fenders and cleared an inch or so using the cut and fold method. Sanded them down taped thm off and hit them with a rattle can. I think they came out pretty nice.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/esupog.jpg)

(http://i30.tinypic.com/nccz5y.jpg)
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 12:34:36 AM
Ok, so it already has 33s. good. Would have felt bad if I had taken tires you could have used.

i say swap them in the middle of the night.  he'll never know :D
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 06, 2009, 01:31:55 AM
why would I swap 33s for 33s? ???
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 02:46:25 AM
Looks Good Andy, did you did the fronts too?
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 02:55:27 AM
why would I swap 33s for 33s? ???

swap them for his muds
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 06, 2009, 03:35:28 AM
Looks Good Andy, did you did the fronts too?
Naa didnt do the fronts yet, I only have a saws all. It was shaking the fender around like a ragdoll, so I decided I'd wait till I at least found a jigsaw or an angle grinder. But I may find one tomorrow. ;)
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 06, 2009, 03:38:03 AM
why would I swap 33s for 33s? ???

swap them for his muds

Naa, I think the ATs will last longer, muds seem to "melt" away quickly. And from what everyone tells me the BFG ATs do fine on the CT state flowers, or  (Rocks). Probably easier on gas mileage also.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 03:52:31 AM
why would I swap 33s for 33s? ???

swap them for his muds

Naa, I think the ATs will last longer, muds seem to "melt" away quickly. And from what everyone tells me the BFG ATs do fine on the CT state flowers, or  (Rocks). Probably easier on gas mileage also.

Wheel the at's, then wheel mt's.  you'll change your tune VERY quickly!
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 04:10:44 AM

Wheel the at's, then wheel mt's.  you'll change your tune VERY quickly!

Heres my opinion:

For a DD, the AT's can be beat.  Long Tread Life.

For a Trail Rig/ Toy, the MT's are the way to go. 
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 04:12:38 AM

Wheel the at's, then wheel mt's.  you'll change your tune VERY quickly!

Heres my opinion:

For a DD, the AT's can be beat.  Long Tread Life.

For a Trail Rig/ Toy, the MT's are the way to go. 


boggers belong on everything!!  when i have the $ i'm putting swampers on my dd jimmy.  i like road noise.  i believe that for a dd it has to be a radial.  for the trail toy, bias only, they flex better.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 04:16:28 AM



boggers belong on everything!!  when i have the $ i'm putting swampers on my dd jimmy.  i like road noise.  i believe that for a dd it has to be a radial.  for the trail toy, bias only, they flex better.

Bias ply are great for a trailer rig, but a little scarry on the road.  I like the AT's for a DD since they last so long.  Swampers are a lot of $$$ to have them melt off on the street.  IMO you would be better off getting a second set of rims and tires and swap your swampers on before you head out for the trail, or swap them out at the trail like Rocket. 
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 04:21:16 AM



boggers belong on everything!!  when i have the $ i'm putting swampers on my dd jimmy.  i like road noise.  i believe that for a dd it has to be a radial.  for the trail toy, bias only, they flex better.

Bias ply are great for a trailer rig, but a little scarry on the road.  I like the AT's for a DD since they last so long.  Swampers are a lot of $$$ to have them melt off on the street.  IMO you would be better off getting a second set of rims and tires and swap your swampers on before you head out for the trail, or swap them out at the trail like Rocket. 

i'm actually happy with the firestones i just got.  they have 9000 miles on them already and have about 80% tread left, for the light action this is going to see, they'll work just fine.  the terrain i was in today was wet sandy silt type dirt roads, and i actually got some wheel hop when i tried to spin them in 2wd.  but ya bias tires suck on the street, but in the rocks, the sidewalls flex like crazy and they are superb.  but hey i like the thumpity thump thump as the tires round back out in the morning.  lol..  if i switch to the new position at work, i'll be commuting to my desk every day, so then the swampers will be justified  8) 8)
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: BlacXJeep on August 06, 2009, 05:45:07 AM
Well I wheeled the 31 MTs and liked em', but the ATs didn't seem to stop Roger. So we'll see next time I get out. Oh and I just "Borrowed"a jig saw from work lol, heres the results. Scratched the paint up a bit but whatever.

(http://i26.tinypic.com/ehg54y.jpg)

(http://i28.tinypic.com/bgzoyq.jpg)

And heres a stock picture, just for giggles

(http://i31.tinypic.com/282jkhx.jpg)
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 02:19:19 PM
I think it looked better stock.  Roger also had a welded rear diff.  at's are ok, but the mt's are really the way to go for wheeling.  but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 06, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
ATs work great in everything except for deep mud. They are better than MTs when it comes to beach sand because they don't dig a hole. The wheeling I have done out here has had very little mud and the ATs did well in the rocks.
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 03:46:00 PM
Roger- I have a line on a 35x12.50 BFT AT for a spare for my Jeep.  If I end up getting it, I'll have the matching 33x12.50 BFG MT for you.  I'll let you know if it all works out, and this way we can get you all set up.

Andy- looks good.  The scratches make it look like youv'e taken it through more then a parking lot. JK. 
Title: Re: 33x12.5s on
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 06, 2009, 03:55:28 PM
Roger- I have a line on a 35x12.50 BFT AT for a spare for my Jeep.  If I end up getting it, I'll have the matching 33x12.50 BFG MT for you.  I'll let you know if it all works out, and this way we can get you all set up.

Andy- looks good.  The scratches make it look like youv'e taken it through more then a parking lot. JK. 

Sounds good Kirk. Let me know how it turns out.