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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: GreenGrandV8 on March 22, 2012, 05:33:08 AM
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hey i was wondering if any of you know much about working on the differentials and might be able to help me put my powertrax no-slip locker in????? if not ill have to pay like 150$ or so to get it in. i just dont wanna fuck anything up
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hey i was wondering if any of you know much about working on the differentials and might be able to help me put my powertrax no-slip locker in????? if not ill have to pay like 150$ or so to get it in. i just dont wanna fuck anything up
its a lunch box locker pull your spiders and swap them out gravy it should be done in ,less than an hour un less you have to pull the ring gear
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Lunchbox lockers are pretty straight forward. I've put a couple in. I would give you a hand, but I'm going to be out of town tomorrow and coming back late in the evening of April 1st and then I leave again on the 7th of April and don't come back until the 16th. There should be some write ups and maybe even you-tube videos to watch to get the idea of it.
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yeah ill try to find some videos n stuff. i just not sure because its got springs n rods n stuff. and it came with instruction book but pictures dont help me always and writeups. i almost need to watch someone do it or have someone instruct me. i almost learn better. i dont have it right now though, i thought i did.... cause i thought my rear axle was a 8.25 but i figured out its a d35. bout the riddler cover and the locker for the 8.25 and yeah lol its BS. so i need to UPS it back for an exchange. shitty deal. but i will post on here when i get the right one to see if anyone want to come to Canterbury n have a few beers. Good way for me to meet one of you. and if u bring your jeep my dads got 14acres here and i got a few decent trails
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yeah ill try to find some videos n stuff. i just not sure because its got springs n rods n stuff. and it came with instruction book but pictures dont help me always and writeups. i almost need to watch someone do it or have someone instruct me. i almost learn better. i dont have it right now though, i thought i did.... cause i thought my rear axle was a 8.25 but i figured out its a d35. bout the riddler cover and the locker for the 8.25 and yeah lol its BS. so i need to UPS it back for an exchange. shitty deal. but i will post on here when i get the right one to see if anyone want to come to Canterbury n have a few beers. Good way for me to meet one of you. and if u bring your jeep my dads got 14acres here and i got a few decent trails
find an 8.25 don't waste money on a d35
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find an 8.25 don't waste money on a d35
X2! I don't think you will find anyone who would recommend building a D35! once you put a locker in it, it is only a matter of time of when it will break! just putting 33's on it will stress it! like gearhead said you should look for a 8.25, it should be the easist and cheapest to swap in, a Ford 8.8 is also a good choice but will require a lot more work.
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If you have a Grand Cherokee & I think you do then swapping a 8.25 would not be easy cuz the Grands only came with a D35 or an aluminum D44 & both are junk. Go with the 8.8 & be done with it.
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If you have a Grand Cherokee & I think you do then swapping a 8.25 would not be easy cuz the Grands only came with a D35 or an aluminum D44 & both are junk. Go with the 8.8 & be done with it.
I 110% agree with Bob. The 8.8 will probabaly be cheaper in the long run.
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Another option would be a Dana 44 out of a TJ. All the TJ Sport models would have had a D44 stock with an open diff and most likely 3.73 gears.
It would be a bolt in swap for your application. A little more to purchase one then a 8.8, but it would be a bolt in upgrade. Other option would be a D44 from a Rubicon, but those are big $$$.
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yeah i have so much money into this jeep im just gonna run the d35 for now, see how it does. but the 8.25 isnt hard to find, you can find it in a lot of the 2wd models, but yeah the d44 from a tj would prob be the best bet, and will probably be my next swap mission.. i still have to put the rock sliders on too but i godda fix some rot first. I just got the locker in today for the d35, cant wait to get it in and try it. if anyone feels like helping me figure this out bfor i iether bring to a shop or start messin with it let me know. i was thinkin i might try to figure somethin out this weekend
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I still say this is a bad move, with the weight of a GC, once you put in a lunch box locker it is only a matter of time before.....
Having said that, jack up the vehicle as high as you can and support it with jack stand on the frame, pull the wheels and allow the axle to droop down as far as it will go. this gives you the most room to work in the differential. the PowerTrax is not that hard to install, read the directons twice before you begin. You are really just changing out the spider gears for the locker gears, you pull the center pin and the spiders will just about fall out, then the C-clips and then the side gears and the axle just slides out. while you are in there you should change out the axle seals as they are cheap and you need to pull the axles anyway. this should not take you more that a half day, just take your time and follow the directions.
Once you are done, remember to go easy with the skinny pedal other wise all that work will disappear with a loud BANG!
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Carry spare D35 shafts, and all the tools to pull them and replace then when they break. Notice I said "when" not if, just ask Ed about the D35. Also carry spare gear oil, and drain pan and gasket maker.
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stop giving me all the bad new and give me some luck lol im hoping it lasts for a while. if not i got spare axle in other jeep to run till i get a d44. but im praying for some good use out of it
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stop giving me all the bad new and give me some luck lol im hoping it lasts for a while. if not i got spare axle in other jeep to run till i get a d44. but im praying for some good use out of it
Good luck with the install. It really isn't that bad of a job and I know most people frown on the D35 (for good reason), but being light on the skinny pedal might give you miles of trouble free use. Every now and then you get a good one and it lasts longer than it's supposed to.
I've always marked my carrier and just pull the whole thing out so I can work on it on the workbench rather than under the Jeep, but that is personal preference.
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thanks man. i think im gonna have my buddy that races at waterford help me out with it cause hes always messin with his rear diff all the time. and if anyone is going to that jeep run for a donation on the 21st up in pachaug state forest and nepaug hope you have fun. i really wanted to go but its on opening day of fishing season--cant put that off HA..... and i will post when i get my lunchbox in lol
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how bout a d44 from a 97 zj?? but disc brake... how hard would it be to swap to that???
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I don't think there were many changes to the suspension on ZJs so a D44a Zj swap should be pretty straight forward. You'll get more strength with that axle, but not as much as a TJ D44. i believe all the ZJ D44s were the aluminum version if I remember correctly.
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yeah i looked up the tj axles at the junk yards and there like 800$+ crazy. and i can find the zj one for like 325$ probably still a good upgrade tho, not sure ill have to check them out
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and i just looked up about the d44's and it sais in 96+ in zj's it has an aluminum center section.... what are the calling an aluminum center?? the diff case??
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found this on jeeptech.com ------------The ZJ Dana 44 is the only Jeep Dana 44 with an aluminum differential housing. It is also a C-clip axle with one piece shafts and a 5 on 4.5" wheel bolt pattern. Because of the aluminum housing and C-clips, it is not really any more desirable than a Dana 35c. The shafts are 30 spline. so i shouldnt spend money on that i guess, dam just cant win lol
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That's the thing about jeeps, you really need to do your homework before buying anything!
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yeah im goin with the 8.8 im gonna get one with stock locker and disc brakes. but how hard is gonna be to hook up the disc brakes in the back when i got drums right now??
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yeah im goin with the 8.8 im gonna get one with stock locker and disc brakes. but how hard is gonna be to hook up the disc brakes in the back when i got drums right now??
You will need a second passenger side soft brake line, and either buy the adaptor kit for the parking brake cable, or do a search for the hardware store loop and clamp fix. The brakes are the easy part.