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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: footman on July 29, 2009, 02:57:21 PM

Title: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 29, 2009, 02:57:21 PM
Yeah baby, the brown santa just delivered my l;ift kit.  The SYE and CV shaft are in transit and I hopefully will be picking up my beyyl skid tonight.  I'd say mid Aug I'm going to take a vacation day and install.  Do any of you guys have sone extra jack stands I can borrow?  Who ever has done control arms, should I follow the directions and do one at a time or can I just drop the axel and do them all at the same time?  Has anyone used the POR15?  How fast does it take to dry?  Well I think thats it for now.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on July 29, 2009, 03:21:24 PM
I have a tall set of jack stands if you need to borrow em.  do the control arms one at a time.  if you take all of them out at the same time the axle may shift and then it can become a pain to get them re-aligned.  as far as the por15, i've used it in a body shop situation before, but i can't remember the cure time.  i think we let it sit overnight just to be safe.  great product though.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: calvynandhobbs on July 29, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
Yeah baby, the brown santa just delivered my l;ift kit.  The SYE and CV shaft are in transit and I hopefully will be picking up my beyyl skid tonight.  I'd say mid Aug I'm going to take a vacation day and install.  Do any of you guys have sone extra jack stands I can borrow?  Who ever has done control arms, should I follow the directions and do one at a time or can I just drop the axel and do them all at the same time?  Has anyone used the POR15?  How fast does it take to dry?  Well I think thats it for now.

One side at a time on the control arms or have ratchet straps available for trying to get the axle lined back up. When I've swapped axles I would have 3 or 4 ratchet straps all pulling in different directions to get things to line up.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: rocket on July 29, 2009, 05:11:43 PM
I've got 6 jackstands, you can borrow some.  I'll need a couple for some repairs to the taco.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on July 29, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
From what I have read about POR15 it works great on rusted parts, but not worth crap on good metal.  If you are planning on using it on stuff like your new skid, I wouldn't, it will just peel off.  If your plan is to use it on your frame you'r probably ok.  Let me know when you are ready for for the SYE, I have done a few of them now and can help you out.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 29, 2009, 09:24:10 PM
So yes I was planning on cleaning up the frame(not the skid) a bit then applying the por15.  I couldnt see putting on nice shiney new stuff and have it surrounded by rust.  As far as the SYE, I'd love the help.  Are you working yet or are you still on ML?  If still on ML for how long? 
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 30, 2009, 02:33:14 PM
Can I drop both upper CA so I dont have to use a spring compressor?   Where can I get nutserts? 
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on July 30, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
Can I drop both upper CA so I dont have to use a spring compressor?   Where can I get nutserts? 

how big of springs are you putting in?  anything over 4.5 you really should use a spring compressor.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 30, 2009, 04:19:47 PM
its a 4" lift but like most lifts I'll probably get an extra half inch
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: calvynandhobbs on July 30, 2009, 05:23:42 PM
Can I drop both upper CA so I dont have to use a spring compressor?   Where can I get nutserts? 

I've got 4.5" springs plus 1.75" coil spacers in the XJ and didn't use spring compressors. I did unbolt both of the upper CA, tie rods, and track bar, which allowed enough droop to get them in. Once I got the one side in I used a jack on that side to compress it enough so that I could put the coils and spacer in on the other side. You can use ratchet straps to line the axle back up for reinstalling the upper control arms. They do a great job for rotating it.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 30, 2009, 06:26:51 PM
excelent, thats what I wanted to hear!
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on July 30, 2009, 06:50:09 PM
guess i'm just spoiled with the clamshell spring compressor.  makes 6 inch springs squish to the point where you don't even need to take out the shocks  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on July 31, 2009, 03:17:31 PM
Ok guys so this is going to be a great time to change all my fluids. What are your thoughts on Amsoil vs Royal Purple?  What volumes am I looking at and where should I get it. 
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on July 31, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
Ok guys so this is going to be a great time to change all my fluids. What are your thoughts on Amsoil vs Royal Purple?  What volumes am I looking at and where should I get it. 

I usually use the walmart brand of fluids in trail rigs.  I change them every 3 rides anyway so good oil is a waste of $ for me.  But royal purple does make some great products, i'd use them if those were the two choices.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: Seabee_BUC on July 31, 2009, 09:39:31 PM
Ok guys so this is going to be a great time to change all my fluids. What are your thoughts on Amsoil vs Royal Purple?  What volumes am I looking at and where should I get it. 

Definately Royal Purple! I did and it was worth every penny of the $65 for all the fluids....And Bumper to Bumper carries it in stock...
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 05, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
I'll be wrenching all day next tuesday (8/11) if anyone wants to stop by and get their hands dirty.
I'll be at my place in Groton, PM me for directions.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 12:37:19 AM
I'll be wrenching all day next tuesday (8/11) if anyone wants to stop by and get their hands dirty.
I'll be at my place in Groton, PM me for directions.

i may just take you up on that.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 06, 2009, 01:53:13 AM
Sweet Paul. Ill send you a pm
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 06, 2009, 02:56:13 AM
all depends upon what my work schedule looks like
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 03:55:16 PM
Steve- do you have air tools??  If not, we can do your work in my shop.  I'm about 20 min. from Groton, but I would be closer for Paul to come help. I also have a welder, a ton of power tools, a couple of floor jacks, jack stands..... basically I should have everything we would need. 
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 06, 2009, 07:29:52 PM
Hey Kirk, I do have all the air tools. 
Thank you for the offer to use your house.  I'd like to do it at my house just in case I cant finish it or I run into any problems(NAPA, AZ are just down the street).  Plus I'm going to start late monday night painting the rails with POR15 and possibly start getting it prepped for Tues morn (I plan on jumping on it around 7am).  I'll have to leave the Jeep and drive the Truck loaded with all the goodies.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 06, 2009, 08:12:57 PM
Steve, I should be able to come by for a couple hours after work. Send me your address.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on August 06, 2009, 11:01:41 PM
If you have air tools that will make things much easier.   ;)  What year is your TJ?  In 2000 (???) Jeep added a harmonic dampener to the end of the transfer case, and it requires 3 metric size bolts to pull it.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: BayouGold on August 07, 2009, 02:08:56 AM
Steve, I should be able to come by for a couple hours after work. Send me your address.

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Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 07, 2009, 05:06:11 AM
basically I should have everything we would need. 

blinker fluid recharge kit??  was a sir charge from the flux capicitor master install kit.  also came with extra muffler bearings.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 07, 2009, 05:08:31 AM
I also have a welder...

THREAD HIJACK... What kind??

Steve answer my pm and we'll see what we can do.  I may be there as early as 9:30.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 07, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
Hey paul, did you get the PM?
I also have a welder and this will be its virgin use!!!!!!!
Kirk, its a 99 no balancer.
I've got instuctions for everything so I'll layout my tools and make sure I have everything.
I may need a drill that takes larger bits.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 07, 2009, 03:16:53 PM
Hey paul, did you get the PM?
I also have a welder and this will be its virgin use!!!!!!!
Kirk, its a 99 no balancer.
I've got instuctions for everything so I'll layout my tools and make sure I have everything.
I may need a drill that takes larger bits.

how large of a drill do you need??  i have a half inch cordless ryobi, and a corded 1/2" dewalt that is nasty, and a hilti hammer drill that will put 3" holes in cement.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 07, 2009, 05:53:13 PM
I believe the largest hole I have to drill something like 29/32 or something ridiculous like that then there is a slightly smaller than that
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 08, 2009, 02:38:44 AM
I believe the largest hole I have to drill something like 29/32 or something ridiculous like that then there is a slightly smaller than that

then a drill with a 1/2" chuck should be alright.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on August 08, 2009, 03:18:43 AM
I also have a welder...

THREAD HIJACK... What kind??

Steve answer my pm and we'll see what we can do.  I may be there as early as 9:30.

110V Mig/ Flux from Harbor Freight, not the best quality, but it seems to do the job.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: PaulW on August 08, 2009, 03:35:08 AM
I also have a welder...

THREAD HIJACK... What kind??

Steve answer my pm and we'll see what we can do.  I may be there as early as 9:30.

110V Mig/ Flux from Harbor Freight, not the best quality, but it seems to do the job.

i originally learned how to weld on those.  when i upgraded to my miller, i couldn't have been happier, it lays beautiful beads.  i know i'll never go back.  my next upgrade will be a tig.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 09, 2009, 04:59:53 AM
Anyone know what size the bolts/nuts are for the upper and lower control arms?
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 10, 2009, 02:18:56 AM
If I wanted to buy new one to replace old??
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 10, 2009, 02:54:30 AM
Anyone know what size the bolts/nuts are for the upper and lower control arms?

I have no idea. As long as there is another vehicle there it will be easy to pull them out and then make a run to Johnson's to pick up new ones. I think Paul is right in that they are probably large metric bolts.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on August 11, 2009, 02:56:41 AM
I already loaded my Grinder and HD snap ring pliers in my XJ.  Can you PM me your address again?  I deleted a bunch of old PM's and I accidentally deleted your address.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 11, 2009, 01:40:55 PM
Does anybody have 17/32 and 29/32 drill bits?  If so could you please bring them.
My cell is 460-6444
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 12, 2009, 02:09:04 PM
HUGE THANK YOUS to Will, Kirk, Roger and Paul.  I certainly couldnt have gotten That far without you guys.  I think as long as its not raining I may try and do the rear today after work.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: kirksjeep on August 12, 2009, 02:21:31 PM
HUGE THANK YOUS to Will, Kirk, Roger and Paul.  I certainly couldnt have gotten That far without you guys.  I think as long as its not raining I may try and do the rear today after work.

The rear should go a lot easier ( no track bar ;)).  I'm not going to be available to help until possibly Sunday, but if you still need help then let me know. 

Just remeber to add Power Steering Fluid and bleed the system like we talked about, and add transfercase fluid too.  The fill bolt for the T-case is a 10mm allen. 
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: calvynandhobbs on August 12, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
I had a great time working on Steve's rig last night. Anytime I can wrench is a good time. This is the 2nd SYE I've worked on and probably Kirk's 4th or 5th so we're getting there.

Steve, I'm not available tonight, but will be around the rest of this week and this weekend if you need a hand. Just let me know. I have a lot of homework to do this weekend, but turning a wrench could provide a much needed break.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 13, 2009, 05:31:14 PM
So I got the rear lower control arms mounted and rear track bar mount installed, then the rain came.
I'll try and get the lowers on tonight after 8.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 14, 2009, 03:01:35 PM
The rear end is all set (except for break line extension).  Anyone know where I can get braided lines for the backcoming out of the block on the axel?  I think I'll tackle the nutsert removal and new nutsert installation on sunday.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 14, 2009, 06:57:28 PM
I already did that I just wanted the look of the braided.
Title: Re: Christmas time in July
Post by: footman on August 17, 2009, 05:57:42 AM
Anyone know of a local shop that will do a front end alinement