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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: CaptORM on January 05, 2009, 01:49:37 PM
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Well my front end finally fell apart last friday. My front, lower, drivers side control arm bracket broke loose and now my control arm is hanging down.
Anybody know of a good place to get a new bracket.
And Scott......Please help.....
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Blue Torch Fab on 4wd.com. 3/16" steel. As far as OEM, I'm not sure. Probably Bumper to Bumper or an online parts store. You probably won't be able to find a single piece. Most likely they will come in pairs.
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Well my front end finally fell apart last friday. My front, lower, drivers side control arm bracket broke loose and now my control arm is hanging down.
Anybody know of a good place to get a new bracket.
And Scott......Please help.....
guess who else has a welder: Hot Rod!
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well, i have a grinder and welder that my lovely, wonderful, beautiful wife got me for christmas.
i will help with what ever. call me asap rich
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i have high strength replacements if you want them
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Sorry for the delayed response Rich, I'm on leave right now until Thursday and my welder is at work. It will have to wait until the weekend if you need me to do it. Are you replacing all the brackets at once?
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No just the front passenger lower bracket....Ill be working between you and Hotrod to get the welding done. I still havent ordered my parts so I dont have them and Im not quite ready to do it all yet. I havent done anything with it yet.
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Since you actually have something else to drive, why wouldn't you replace all of them at once? Remove the axle, grind it nice and smooth and then properly relocate the new heavy duty brackets? I'll be honest, I can't weld upside down very well at all...and I know it doesn't have to be beautiful but it DOES have to be strong since it's a major suspension link, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing a half ass weld on it just to save some time...... Just my .02
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All right ordered all the parts yesterday so fix to happen soon. I sat down the other day and wondered why the best vehicle in the snow in my driveway was sitting there collecting snow and ordered the parts.
So this weekend...
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post a time/location for the work!
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My house and not sure when. Sometime this weekend...
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Did you end up buying a full set of replacement brackets? Are you completely removing the axle to put them on?
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Rich, I have to say you may really want to listen to Scott on this one. When I replaced the same brackets on my jeep, I left the axle in. Even using Scott's welder, my welds were "amature" to say the least (because I did them ::) ). When I took the jeep up to Pete's for some work, he fixed them for me. Doing it again, I would definitely remove the axle... The welds will come out 10 fold better (and safer). I will be happy to lend a hand.
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Is your garage big enough to do the work in?
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Still unsure about taking the axle out. I will need help. Ill make phone calls. Shouldnt take to long though. My garage is not big enough to put the jeep in but I cannot move the jeep very far without a control arm. Like not even down the street. So my garage is where it will be.. But Axle if your offering help and I got hotrod then Ill probably pull the axle weld both sides up, put the axle back under and call it a day.
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Sounds good, just give me a call when you have a date and time. If you can give me a little notice, it will make it easier for me to get there.
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I didn't say I couldn't or wouldn't help Rich, I just know that I CAN'T weld upside down. For your safety and the safety of others you may be driving alongside, I wouldn't even trust myself to weld them without doing it properly meaning removing the axle from the truck. If time is a factor, then can I suggest that you try to unhook all the other stuff that you don't need to move the Jeep with and then pull the axle on the day the work is getting done. I would also suggest you try to find some measurements to use as a reference because when you remove the old ones you need to clean the tube up so it's smooth for the new ones to be mounted properly. There should be a website that can give you the measurements or just take some before the old brackets are ground off...Just don't want you to have issues after its back together.... :-\
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Saturday morning starting at 1000. Anybody who can help please do. The more the marrier. Im going to jack the vehicle up put it on stands, remove tires and brake calipers, disconnect driveshaft, shocks, and control arms, pull the axle out and start grinding brackets off. Then weld on new brackets and reverse the process.
If you want to help and dont know where I live pm me ill send you the address....
I live in housing by the way.
Suppose to be cold this weekend but Id appriciate the help. Thanks.
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we gonna do this outside? don't you have a garage? what tools should we bring (grinders, cutters, etc)?
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Yes, we are doing this outside. No, he can't get the jeep in the garage. He can't even move it down the street, so it has to be done on site. I will help as long as I can, Rich. I have a basketball game Saturday afternoon.
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I'll stop by for a while and lend a hand.
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Rich, if you have propane, i'll bring my heater!
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Rich, steal the propane tank from your neighbors grill, i'll bring my heater!
;)
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Grinders yes the more the faster this will go.
Bring your heater if your coming ill get the propane tank out.
Basic hand tools.
Sorry for having to do it outside. Dont have much choice. The jeep doesnt fit in the garage anyway.
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Grinders yes the more the faster this will go.
Bring your heater if your coming ill get the propane tank out.
Basic hand tools.
Sorry for having to do it outside. Dont have much choice. The jeep doesnt fit in the garage anyway.
No stock tires to put on it? Even if you let the air out of the tires?
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you can borrow my 28s for a day if those will help.
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had to ask, my xj wouldnt fit into the garage unless the itsy bitsy tires went on it.
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Ok, just being a good Nuke( I know I can be a dork, you don't have to remind me, comes with the job), but if Rich runs 33's and you put on 28's, i will only lower the Jeep 2 1/2 inches ( 33-28=5, 5/2= 2.5 ) and from tanking to Rich, he needs a lot more then 2 1/2 inches to clear a 7 foot door. Now with 4-5 guys you could pull the roof rack off ( gain about 14-15 inches, 12.5 wide tire, + the clearance from the roof of the Jeep to the bottom of the rack) and I bet that would fit, but is it worth it????
Math is Fun :P
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. . but is it worth it????
only when working for hours in sub-freezing weather!
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The first step would be all of that to get it in the garage.
The ultimate stopping point to the garage is the crap in the garage. My garage is full of stuff. So The garage issue is really a mute point.
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Rich, i left my heater and grinder in the cab of the xj. I won't be there (was up at 4am and need a nap before snowboarding in MA w/ my brother), sorry. I'll get my stuff from you later.
you use a garage for storage? SHAME ON YOU!! You know better! a garage is for parking vehilces and doing work/projects. get a storage shed!
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yea get a shed!
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Well the control arm brackets are in and good to go. Thanks Roger, Scott, and Axle for giving me a hand.
Went pretty smooth if I say so myself. Only had to buy one castle nut for the tie rod after screwing it up.
Drives like a queen again so the brackets must be in the right place and the axle must be lined up properly.
Rocket you have seen the housing garages correct. They are pretty small. Working on a jeep in one of the garages would be kinda tight. And what the hell else am I suppose to do with all the crap from my boats all winter. Put it in my living room so I can park a car in the garage. i dont think so. Anyway. Thanks for the grinder rocket help us cut a few minutes on grinding time with two grinders. Thanks again.
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And what the hell else am I suppose to do with all the crap from my boats all winter.
Leave it on the boat??
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Rich, I'm glad to hear you got it finished up this afternoon. I wish I could have stayed longer, but had lots of homework to do.
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I stopped by after the game and helped him finish up. It took maybe another hour after you guys had left.
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I"m glad you guys got it done, i feel bad i had to bail, but family comes first! You gonna be around sunday? I can grab my stuff (and get Scott back his grinder)
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I should be home all day...If not, call me and tell me where you're leaving it...
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home all day
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PICS!!
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Oops! forgot your grinder at home scott, and forgot to hit your house rich. will the wives be home tomorrow? Rich, I can grab my stuff from where i left it.
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will the wives be home tomorrow?
WOW!!
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so i can get my stuff and give scott his
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so i can get my stuff and give scott his
I figured that much, I'm just trying to be lively. That and I have a dirty mind :D
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will the wives be home tomorrow?
You'll have to drop it by after 1330 Jeremy...
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will the wives be home tomorrow?
You'll have to drop it by after 1330 Jeremy...
It may have to wait till a different day; not sure if i'll be in the area that late. If so, i'll text ya.
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it will have to wait. Ill be home realtively early but not in the morning. And the jeep is with me!!!!! Yes. it is so nice to drive it again.
Hey Axle we forgot to tighten the lug nuts after we put the vehicle down. I remembered yesterday sometime. Good thing i did they were pretty loose.
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it will have to wait. Ill be home realtively early but not in the morning. And the jeep is with me!!!!! Yes. it is so nice to drive it again.
Hey Axle I forgot to tighten the lug nuts after we put the vehicle down. I remembered yesterday sometime. Good thing i did they were pretty loose.
You forgot to tighten the lug nuts... I was the jack operator! ;D
Yes, it is a good thing you remembered. That could have sucked really bad.
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i had a wheel fall off once. looked something like this....
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/flexj/blowed%20up/0798862-R1-013-5.jpg)
believe it or not i still drove it on that rotor for another year!!