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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: BlacXJeep on March 19, 2011, 05:34:02 PM

Title: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 19, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
Black Betty has still not fully recovered from her brush with death at Mohawk last year. I plan to get her fully wheelable and back to her old self for some spring wheelin' before I deploy to Afghanistan in July.

Some of you may remember these heartwrenching moments

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The list:

-New 4.5'' full leaf packs rear -Done
-Gas Tank skid - On my back seat
-Remove TC drop
-Hack n tap and xj front cv shaft, or 231 swap with true SYE kit? - IRO 27 spline fixed yoke with xj CV front shaft waiting to install
-Billstein 5100 shocks?
-frame side LCA brackets need to be plated and re-drilled (wallowed out)
-LCA axle end needs cam bolts-waiting to be installed
- New Hood, and doors with rolly up winders (found a donor, 94 XJ flavor green, currently sitting in Mikes front yard) installed, waiting for paint
- Hood release assembly- waiting to be installed
- Re-mount transfer case skid
- Metal Tail light housings?
- Gut headliner, find solution
to be continued...

Some pics of the new leafs installed. actually looks like a lifted jeep now!

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The SY is horrible and spitting TC fluid all over
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Shocks have taken a beating
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you can see were the LCA is sliding around in the hole :(
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Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: RnnngTrails on March 19, 2011, 11:26:18 PM
For the headliner, there is a bone yard out here with like 3 or 4 pre 97 XJ's. Would you like me to take a look and see if i cant find one for cheap? I'll bring it home with me in May.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: calvynandhobbs on March 20, 2011, 02:00:20 PM
Andy,
I've got an XJ front CV shaft at the house if you haven't sourced one yet. You can have it for $20 if you're interested.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 21, 2011, 01:38:50 AM
Andy,
I've got an XJ front CV shaft at the house if you haven't sourced one yet. You can have it for $20 if you're interested.
Done deal sir! Im off tuesday, you gonna be around? I'll drop by since your only 5 minutes away.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 21, 2011, 01:42:34 AM
For the headliner, there is a bone yard out here with like 3 or 4 pre 97 XJ's. Would you like me to take a look and see if i cant find one for cheap? I'll bring it home with me in May.
that sounds really great man, problem is my xj has a sunroof somehow, and the headliner is really weird. If you can find on intact out of a pre 97, and slide it out in one piece, i would be happy to pay you for it, and see if i can make it work. I don't use the sun roof so I'd just make it fit over it i guess. In fact a 97+ may even work and maybe be even better.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: calvynandhobbs on March 21, 2011, 02:51:15 AM
Andy,
I've got an XJ front CV shaft at the house if you haven't sourced one yet. You can have it for $20 if you're interested.
Done deal sir! Im off tuesday, you gonna be around? I'll drop by since your only 5 minutes away.

Yep, I'll be around after work. I should be home by 5:00 or so that evening. Don't have any plans to leave the house after that. I honestly forgot I had it until I was cleaning out the barn and trying to organize things yesterday.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 21, 2011, 08:24:06 PM
sounds good, ill give you a ring after 5:30
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: skibum on March 22, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
For the headliner, there is a bone yard out here with like 3 or 4 pre 97 XJ's. Would you like me to take a look and see if i cant find one for cheap? I'll bring it home with me in May.
that sounds really great man, problem is my xj has a sunroof somehow, and the headliner is really weird. If you can find on intact out of a pre 97, and slide it out in one piece, i would be happy to pay you for it, and see if i can make it work. I don't use the sun roof so I'd just make it fit over it i guess. In fact a 97+ may even work and maybe be even better.
Not shure what year you XJ is but XJ's stopped offering sun roof options around 1988. Not shure on the exact year but positive on anything after 1990. After that there all aftermarket.  If the roof ribs run into the sunroof seal then it"s aftermarket.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 22, 2011, 05:19:16 AM
For the headliner, there is a bone yard out here with like 3 or 4 pre 97 XJ's. Would you like me to take a look and see if i cant find one for cheap? I'll bring it home with me in May.
that sounds really great man, problem is my xj has a sunroof somehow, and the headliner is really weird. If you can find on intact out of a pre 97, and slide it out in one piece, i would be happy to pay you for it, and see if i can make it work. I don't use the sun roof so I'd just make it fit over it i guess. In fact a 97+ may even work and maybe be even better.
Not shure what year you XJ is but XJ's stopped offering sun roof options around 1988. Not shure on the exact year but positive on anything after 1990. After that there all aftermarket.  If the roof ribs run into the sunroof seal then it"s aftermarket.


Its a 93 so yeah i think its aftermarket
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 22, 2011, 05:29:26 AM
anyone have an np231 sitting around? Looking to find one for around $100
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: Flex on March 22, 2011, 05:33:12 AM
if you can find one with a sye u could say ur self some money.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 22, 2011, 06:31:24 AM
if you can find one with a sye u could say ur self some money.

nope im leaning toward doing this, in conjunction with Rogers front driveshaft

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=911260

http://go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoSYEconversion.htm

Calling overland drive shaft today to see if they carry the yoke. It won't be a slip yoke eliminator, per say, but it will eliminate the yoke from slipping :D. I think it will be just as good, if not stronger than a flange if i can manage to get it right. Also, with any luck I will be able to use the same shaft front and rear and only need to carry 1 spare.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: zjchef25 on March 22, 2011, 06:56:16 AM
so the first pic you have up is gonna be trimmed and is gonna be a good pic for some new web stuff
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 22, 2011, 11:57:06 AM
so the first pic you have up is gonna be trimmed and is gonna be a good pic for some new web stuff

do it
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: gearhead1985B on March 24, 2011, 03:51:47 PM
anyone have an np231 sitting around? Looking to find one for around $100

i just sent one tho the scrap yard damn the bad luck
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 25, 2011, 03:56:37 AM
this: http://ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IROR&Product_Code=IR-X_HNT&Category_Code=XDT

just need the yoke the hardware kit and the flange seal, ends up being $179.00
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 26, 2011, 04:05:13 AM

the install will go something like this http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/hack%20and%20Tap%20Install.pdf
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: Flex on March 26, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
looks pretty easy i have the tap and die stuff, so if u have the parts lets knock this out next weekend
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 26, 2011, 09:47:21 PM
I'm ordering it Thursday, but trust me gonna need your help to remove TC drop and get all the skids back on. Is the MJ still in the garage? The cool thing is we don't have to open up the transfer case. Maybe we can fix that LCA bracket too?
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on March 26, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
donor doors and hood installed.

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Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: Flex on March 26, 2011, 11:47:42 PM
we should be able to move the mj by then
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on April 02, 2011, 04:23:56 AM
Ordered the hack n tap kit. I called IRO and talked to Josh, he was very helpful and said that as long as the tail cone on my np242 had three bolts, the kit would work for me with the flange seal. I ordered the flange seal, the drill, tap and hardware and the yoke itself, and it came to $179. Going to use the XJ fronts DS i got from Roger. Josh said a ton of people are running this kit, and or the Rubicon Express Hack n tap with a lot of sucess. IMO the 32 spline output shaft uprade is overated and overpriced. The thought of spending $839 for the tom woods kit, made me sick to my stomach. This seemed the way to go. Hope to have it installed soon, with pictures and a write up to follow. ;D
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: kirksjeep on April 02, 2011, 05:45:30 PM
IMO the 32 spline output shaft uprade is overated and overpriced. The thought of spending $839 for the tom woods kit, made me sick to my stomach. This seemed the way to go.

For that kind of $$$ you could easly find a NP231 with a SYE installed.  I have heard that installing the hack-n-tap by disconecting the drive shafts and running the jeep in low range while applying pressure with a hack saw is the cleanest way to make the cut. 
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on April 03, 2011, 01:32:28 AM
The iron rock offroad hack n tap is on its way. It will be much easier then swapping in a 231, and I can keep my full time 4wd which I love in the snow. I'm planning on building a YJ or TJ when I get back from my deployment so this is just something to get black betty ready to wheel untill I deploy in july.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: skibum on April 03, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
I did a Hack N Tap on my 94 XJ NP231. Drove it for 2Yrs & never had a problen with it. I no it was not the best way to do a SYE but fit my budgit at the time. Hardest part was cutting the tail shaft. It must be cut straight or it will leak.
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on April 10, 2011, 05:27:25 AM
the IRO hack n tap kit came in today, along with a few other odds and ends, (new hood release cable, and cam bolts for the Blue Torch Fab LCA brackets I'm running). Oh and some ugly stickers they sent me too.  The rustys gas tank skid and the Transfer case skid need to be bolted up too. If I can get a day off with this fuel outtage at the plant, maybe I'll have some time to crawl under there and install this stuff. :)
Title: Re: spring wrenching
Post by: BlacXJeep on April 19, 2011, 10:36:28 AM
ok so thanks to a couple days of work with help from Nate and Mike, I managed to install my gas tank, and transfer case skids, got the hood open and installed the new hood release cable, hack n tap the transfer case, and install the cam bolts on the lower control arms. With that being said, it didnt take long to find out something else was wrong. Going to have to take a look, but it sounds like the front drive shaft is on its way out. could be the centering ball, or maybe just a u-joint. Pics to come of the work done