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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: Axle on June 10, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
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I'm at a loss... I'm driving the jeep home last night, I turn the last corner going to my house, and I hear a click, click, and then my front end locks up and I skid to a halt. I get out, look around (in the dark :-\) and I don't see anything hanging down or disconnected. I get back in, start it up, put it in reverse and back up a little bit nice and slow. I try to go forward again and it stops again. I back up again, and this time when I ease it forward, nothing happens and I drive home.
WTF ???
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:o My thoughts would be something fell into the gears :( . Your front driveshaft and axles constantly turn as the jeep moves because you don't have unlockable hubs. I would advise you pull the diff cover ASAP and see if something is loose in there and floating around(lockers and gears are expensive!!). I think it was locked up with something jammed in the gears and rolling back the first time didn't dislodge it enough but the second time you rolled back it managed to roll out of the gear mesh and that's why you could pull forward again without incident. At least until the next time your oil flow throws it back up into the gear mesh again. Either that or your locker did something odd... If you install unlocking hubs, your axle shafts will turn to drive the front tires ONLY when the hubs are locked AND your locker is turned on AND in 4WD. I hope you didn't break your ring gear or a tooth off one or the other...Keep us posted...
:-\ How's that saying go? Just Empty Every Pocket ???
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That's what I'm thinking... The ring gear, locker, or pinion. It's all under warranty still, thank goodness. I called Pete, and he was a little flabergasted. He said I'm only the second guy in 5 years that has had this luck with anything he has done. He recommended trying some stuff out to see what the problem is. I need to change the front diff fluid anyway, so it's not a big deal to go ahead and pull the front cover.
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let me know if ya need any help...we all know how things go when you work on the jeep alone ;D ;)
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let me know if ya need any help...we all know how things go when you work on the jeep alone ;D ;)
BOOM HEADSHOT!!!
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Dirty... Just dirty. :P
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I would love to help but I am strapped for time these days. 2 weeks, just 2 more weeks and I will have weekends back to do things again. YEAH!!!!!!!!
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I dont know much but if you need a hand I can help any time
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So, Gary and I changed out the diff fluid in the front axle, and couldn't find any problems what so ever. I did, however, discover that my front right lower control arm bracket is in the shape of an S rather than straight up and down. I bent the snot out of it. So, who know's where I can get a Dana 30, right, lower control arm bracket? I'm going to call Rock Krawler and see if they have one.
Man this is going to be a pain... :(
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I am not so sure that is why you locked up. ??? The bent bracket was probably a result of the sudden stop. Was it just that one side that is bent? I would think the whole axle had to move to bend that bracket and if one is bent, then the other one should be bent too, if not the uppers too. Does the bracket contact the tires when they are turned?
BUT, during the NEJeep run a few weeks back, someone bent his control arm real bad getting up an obstacle, I wonder if you over flexed somehow...That's the only way I think you could bend just one bracket.
On a alternate note, you can get a new Rubicon axle pretty cheap now...D44 with a locker and 4.10's (which you would change out for your 4.88's) for about $1600.00! :P Just add brackets... ;D
Let me know if you need any help Justin...
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The bracket got bent when I got into an arguement with some rocks and smashed it. There is pretty compelling evidence that that's what happened to the control arm bracket. Lots of scraping leading up to the control arm bracket. Anyway, I just ordered a new set of Blue Torch Fabworks 3/16" lowers for the front. $85 shipped with military discount. They should be here by next week. Thanks for the offer, Scott, as I will need your gorilla welds to put the brackets on. Also, if I get some cutting wheels, can I use your grinder?
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They should be here by next week. Thanks for the offer, Scott, as I will need your gorilla welds to put the brackets on. Also, if I get some cutting wheels, can I use your grinder?
You may use the grinder...
I think its going to be tough though, are you going to remove the axle from the front of the Jeep? As you know, I need a lot of mobility to make those gorilla welds. I have yet to learn to weld upside down and make a decent bead. We can leave the tires right on it, just undo the drive shaft, control arms, track bar, brake lines, and the drag link and roll it out from under the Jeep. And it will be easier to cut the brackets off neatly too.
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sorry, i didnt make it the other night justin, my ringer was turned off, at least you got someone to help ya ;)
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Are we doing this Stick, MIG or TIG? If stick, I should have a welder with everything you need... Let me know if it can be of any use.. It's also a TIG welder but i dont have any Argon or Tungsten. Anyone have access to R-1?
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Scott does great work. If he isn't available for some reason, I'll ask for some help.
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i meant for him to use the welder if he needed. not for me to do it.. I dont know who has what and I only do TIG well.
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I have a small bottle we can put the argon/co2 mix in for TIG/MIG if need be. Thanks for the offer, Gary.
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I'm good on wire right now, might need to get some more gas before I start, don't want to run out right before we finish...I'll have to look...
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Found the problem. Carrier pin is missing it's bolt. It is sliding out of the carrier and getting caught on the pinion. There's already a chunk off the top of the carrier pin missing. It's not enough to warrant a new pin, but I'm worried about the pinion more than anything. Pete stands by his work, and he'll take care of it. Once he gets the bolt, he'll mail it to me so I can install it. Then, I need to check the teeth on the pinion to make sure they aren't damaged. From what I could see of the bottom teeth, they are ok, with a few that have a little scraping, but nothing serious.
Which means I'm most likely out of the cruise day on saturday unless I can come up with a bolt between now and then.
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take the other jeep
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Found the carrier pin bolt... It was in the bottom of the diff, along with a half inch chunk of pinion. The carrier pin bolt backed out, so when I came to a stop and torque was released on the carrier pin, it slipped out enough to grap the pinion on the way down. That's why I came skidding to a halt. Pete is going to order parts, and I'll get it up there when I can. I replaced the bolt into the carrier pin. Hopefully the pinion will make it the hour and a half to Pete's place.
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Will you at least run it to the Cruise day Saturday??? :-\
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I don't know.
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Will you at least run it to the Cruise day Saturday??? :-\
Personally I would let it sit till the drive to CT Axle, I wouldnt push my luck too much :(
If ya want to go to cruise day axle, I got room since Sarah will be at work, just let me know if I need to put the back seat in for the little guy 8)
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We will represent in the S.A.V. if necessary. (Suburban Assault Vehicle) ;D
But thanks, Zach.
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No prob, I know yall would do the same for me :)
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Pete is going to replace everything but the actual locker itself. He's also upgrading my gears from the factory ford's to a higher quality. Unfortunately, I just so happened to be that 1/1000000 guy with a stroke of bad luck. Oh well, Pete's a stand up guy and he's taking care of it.
Now, where did I put that CTaxle banner... ;D
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I dont know how big my current rear hitch is, but if you want we can rent a uhaul trailer and bring it to Pete for you. That way you dont have to press your luck.. I'll look into it.
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It's still drivable. The chip is on the tip of the pinion, so it won't affect the wear pattern. It should be fine until it gets replaced. Pete agrees.
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Thanks for the help, Gary. We got the brackets welded on. The welds aren't that great, but each one got at least one really good bead. Now I just need to get it to Pete so he can fix the rearend.
Edit: Thanks also goes to Scott for letting me borrow his equipment. He has nice equipment! ;D ::)
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where is big yeller???
http://ctaxleservice.com/testimonials.php (http://ctaxleservice.com/testimonials.php)
;D should send him somthing
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Edit: Thanks also goes to Scott for letting me borrow his equipment. He has nice equipment! ;D ::)
Back off my husband's equipment. The welder, you can use. The equipment....is mine.
;) :P
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uh oh, i smell some serious jealousy. good thing youll never be on a sub Scott!! ;D ;)
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uh oh, i smell some serious jealousy. good thing youll never be on a sub Scott!! ;D ;)
Case.
And Point.
;D
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Took you long enough, JD! ;D
Been busy? Don't answer, I know you have... ;)
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Took you long enough, JD! ;D
Been busy? Don't answer, I know you have... ;)
*hides a smile, coughing discreetly*
As I said...his equipment is mine...and yes. It keeps me busy. *Smiles sweetly*
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