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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: BlacXJeep on July 24, 2009, 05:33:51 AM
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Driving to New Hartford Saturday morning to pick up some free doors for my rig. Yes, free!!! Been searching the forums and finally I'm gonna have my hands on a pair. So if anyone would like to give me a hand with the fab work. I. E., some welding and grinding, well that would be super. Never done any fab work, but want to learn.
This should help me to avoid armpit chaffage on club trail rides, and allow for better visibility. Heres something simmilar to what I would like to do.
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=912901&highlight=half+doors
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i have a better way of doing it that involves a LOT less work. i don't have any pics of how mine came out, but they still were functional and looked pretty decent.
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Yeah I was trying to think of a way to do them without so much fab work, so I'm open to ideas
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Yeah I was trying to think of a way to do them without so much fab work, so I'm open to ideas
i can only explain in person
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So I picked up those doors today, and found that they were yes free and most of the doors were in good shape, but the bottoms are pretty rotted out. So Im thinking maybe some black daimond plating is in order to fix this. Still need to modify the hinges, but I managed to gut both completely already. So now I think I will mark some lines on them of were i want to cut, and leave them out in plain site for a few days to stew on the idea.
Paul, I'll bring them with me when I come up, I'm def going to need a hand esp since they are rotted thru.
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you and yur darn wannabe wrangler projects... lmao
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So I picked up those doors today, and found that they were yes free and most of the doors were in good shape, but the bottoms are pretty rotted out. So Im thinking maybe some black daimond plating is in order to fix this. Still need to modify the hinges, but I managed to gut both completely already. So now I think I will mark some lines on them of were i want to cut, and leave them out in plain site for a few days to stew on the idea.
Paul, I'll bring them with me when I come up, I'm def going to need a hand esp since they are rotted thru.
you'll like the way they come out.
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you and yur darn wannabe wrangler projects... lmao
just have to figure out how to make the top come off haha
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you and yur darn wannabe wrangler projects... lmao
just have to figure out how to make the top come off haha
sawzall. i've done that also.
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you and yur darn wannabe wrangler projects... lmao
just have to figure out how to make the top come off haha
sawzall. i've done that also.
Maybe someday, plan on keeping her for a long time and buying something else for a DD.
Got the hinges modified today and taped off some lines were I might want to cut. I'll wait for your help to do the rest. How much would it be roughly for a peice of 1/4 in 2x3 daimond plate? Or whatever size would be closest to that. Its either that or just sheet metal, but something has to be done about the bottoms of the doors, you could almost put your foot all the way through them.
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you and yur darn wannabe wrangler projects... lmao
just have to figure out how to make the top come off haha
sawzall. i've done that also.
Maybe someday, plan on keeping her for a long time and buying something else for a DD.
Got the hinges modified today and taped off some lines were I might want to cut. I'll wait for your help to do the rest. How much would it be roughly for a peice of 1/4 in 2x3 daimond plate? Or whatever size would be closest to that. Its either that or just sheet metal, but something has to be done about the bottoms of the doors, you could almost put your foot all the way through them.
idea...get another set :P
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I think they are salvagable though really. I'll post a pic as soon as I get my camera charged. Maybe even bondo, I don't know. they don't have to be pretty, just for wheeling mostly. Its only about 3 inches up at the most at the very bottom of the outside of the door. Other than that they are fine.
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show me what ya got and we'll see.
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got the passenger side hinges lined up and the door on, the drivers side is going to take some "manuvering" for lack of a more fitting word. But yeah the passenger side lined up nicely.
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got the passenger side hinges lined up and the door on, the drivers side is going to take some "manuvering" for lack of a more fitting word. But yeah the passenger side lined up nicely.
there's a lot of movement to those hinges and with the shims, almost indefinate. it takes a long time to get them aligned.
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Got the door hinges lined up pretty good, and snapped some pics of them on and the rusty spots. Can't find my damn cable to upload the pics though haha.
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put them up and lets see what we have to work with. BTW love your sig :D
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And I like your new avatar!
here's pics don't mind my little brother
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don't try to patch those it's too time consuming. what you should do is where i surrounded, cut some diamond plate to match that lower molding. and do the rockers with it also. it's going to cost a little bit for the steel, but it'll look great, and you'll have something different than everyone else. 3/16" diamond plate will be plenty thick. make sure you get enough to do the whole truck where that lower molding is, and don't forget the other doors too. you can actually wrap the diamond plate under the rocker and it will be strong enough to take some sliding action without caving in. you can't land the entire weight of the vehicle on it, but you can slide the truck across it without too many worries.
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Yeah thats what I was thinking when I asked about diamond plating, but I cant really afford doing the whole rocker panel. I'd probably just do that bottom portion of the doors with black powdercoat diamond plate and then paint the rest of the door black. I have the red trim from the green doors to match the stock trip on the rest of the jeep so maybe I'll toy with that idea also.
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Were can i get 3/16 diamond plate locally? ???
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Were can i get 3/16 diamond plate locally? ???
you'll want to measure the depth of the molding your replacing and then see if you can get a strip that thick. measure the entire length of all the doors and the rockers, to make sure you get a long enough section. the other option is to get a 4x8 sheet and a lot of cut metal blades for a circular saw and cut it yoruself. but call logan steel in meriden, or yarde metals in southington. find out how much you need, and i'll see if i can get you a deal, i know a couple of people in the steel industry.
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would it be worth it to get the black diamond plate warrior panels? $200
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/warrior-products/sideplates-rear-corners-cherokee-xj.htm
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ok so heres the progress of my half door project. Decided just to do the drivers side for now. Its alot of work. So I got the glass and the window track all ripped out. Cut down the inside sheet metal, and started cut and bend the outside over to make an arm rest. I used some light weight wood, not sure what it was, but it seems rigid, to make a frame for some structural integrity, while still keeping the door light weight. Used an old sign for scrap to fill the big gaps and self tapping metal screws. Right now I am in the process of sanding and using bondo to smooth/fill everything. Like I said, it ain't pretty, but for no welder and no fab skills I'm pretty impressed with my progress so far. Long way to go yet, but its very solid and sturdy. Here's the pics thus far.
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Look'in good. For any areas that might see some stress, like around the latch or hinge area, I would use JB Weld instead of bondo. It wont crack out.
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Kirk I filled that area I showed you in the back of my rear fender well with expanding foam, then I used the JB weld I had there. Came out really nice after I sanded and painted it, so I will take that into consideration here.
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would it be worth it to get the black diamond plate warrior panels? $200
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/warrior-products/sideplates-rear-corners-cherokee-xj.htm
i don't know how thick they are, i would go with the strips of 3/16" diamond plate myself. may be a little more expensive, but you'll be able to slide over em without worrying too much.
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Great Job!! Makes me want to find some doors for my FJ and do the same thing ::) ... And with some welding skills, I'd omit the wood and in the end it might look pretty much seamless!
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Great Job!! Makes me want to find some doors for my FJ and do the same thing ::) ... And with some welding skills, I'd omit the wood and in the end it might look pretty much seamless!
Yeah its not even close to being done, but you can see how it has taken shape pretty easisly. Lots of bond work to smooth it out needed. Then I'll paint it black and call it a day. Do have to admit I tore up my knuckles pretty good working on it. You should see if anyone else has done it on an FJ. The doors may be alot heavier. Part of the reason you don't see it on ZJs often. Also would you be able to modify your hinges to swap stock doors in and out easily?
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The doors are looking great. I had a friend of mine that made half doors for his Toyota truck several years ago that looked very similar to what you are building. He used a door knob hole saw to build an insulated drink cup holder in each door and it looks like you have the room to do the same. I'm sure I have a picture of it, but I'd have to dig through my pictures I have on disks. When I switched computers I moved a lot of my older pics to disks.
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Yeah I thought about doing what this guy did, but decided I didn't need another cup holder. Especially when wheeling. Unless you like your soda shaken. :D
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Maybe this will be my next project. haha never!
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