JT4x4
The Mud Pit => General => Topic started by: moosin on September 04, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
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The trail ride is on for Saturday, the 12th. It is about 2 hours to the trailhead from the Groton area. We are working on a place to meet. Please post if you plan on going so we can get a head count
Let us know if you have any questions
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I'm in and I'll be bringing my daughter June. I'll be meeting the Groton group at Smith's 4x4 on 32 in North Franklin. If any newbies have any questions about the trail feel free to shoot me a PM and I'll try to answer it. At a minimum, 31's but 33's are recommended. Be prepared for up to 2.5 foot water crossings. This is a great ride for guys with out a ton of experience, but does have one moderately challenging obstacle and one difficult obstacle that may need a winch or a tug. Be prepared to spend 2-2.5 hours on the trail and possibly longer if we have some breakage. For those that like to have an end time, plan of being back in the Groton area around 1600 (4 P.M.) but that can be earlier or later depending on how the ride goes.
If you are going make sure to pack a lunch and some drinks. There is a nice lunch spot about half way through.
Let's plan on the Groton group (location TBD) leaving at 0830 and arriving at Smith's at about 0900. Which means the Groton Group should meet about 0815 and the Smith's group should meet about 0845.
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For those of us leaving from Groton let's plan on meeting at the Groton Townhouse parking lot and going from there. We'll meet at 8:15.
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Count me out, I have drill. They switched the weekend on me :-\
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i'm in. Hopefully. I'll be bringin my dad along with me to. Show what budget wheelin's all about.
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What is the rig requirements i am in and i have a friend comming
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What is the rig requirements i am in and i have a friend comming
Read Kirk's post about 3 lines above this one. He gives some general requirements. You should be fine on your 31s, but there are a couple obstacles that will give you some trouble.
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if i can get the ranger together enough, count me in. i'm going to pick up some ground hawgs tuesday for it.
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Count me in, I'll meet you at smiths jeep on 32 around 9ish. if someone can PM me a cell number so I can get in touch with the group that would be great!
Knowing me I'll be the last to arrive
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8)i am in... might have a friend with me. i will be at smiths if my friend comes, groton if not
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Let's start a name thread if you are going.
copy and paste the list, then add your name into the post...
Smaug1911
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Let's start a name thread if you are going.
copy and paste the list, then add your name into the post...
Smaug1911
Smaug1911
kirksjeep
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dang if I wasnt taken a couple days off that week from work I would go in a heart beat , and I have a 40 quart frig to keep peoples stuff cold until we eat , well maybe next time arghhhh
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Let's start a name thread if you are going.
copy and paste the list, then add your name into the post...
Smaug1911
Smaug1911
kirksjeep
Mr Rock
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I'll be #4
Smaug1911
kirksjeep
Mr Rock
calvynandhobbs (leaving from the Groton Townhouse on 12)
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I'll be #4
Smaug1911
kirksjeep
Mr Rock
calvynandhobbs (leaving from the Groton Townhouse on 12)
I'll meet you guys a little farther up 32 at the Mobil station Kirk told me about.
I figure you'll get there around 9:30?
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Smaug1911
kirksjeep
Mr Rock
calvynandhobbs (leaving from the Groton Townhouse on 12)
Tsunami
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Smaug1911
Kirksjeep
Mr rock
calvynandhobbs
tsunami
gearhead1985
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Smaug1911
Kirksjeep
Mr rock
calvynandhobbs
tsunami
gearhead1985
WillC ?
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I picked up the JT4x4 stickers and Kill stickers. I have 5 kill stickers for the trail that will be available for sale for when we get done the ride. I will also have all the other stickers too.
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i'll be there too. Me and my dad.
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really sad about not being able to go :'(. Breakneck has been my favorite trail so far, and it looks like we are going to have a good showing.
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one thing though. could we push departure time to the right just a little. I hate to ask really, but i'm off going "gay duty" section. We get relieved at 0815, and then i gotta get home and drop off the duty bag, and pick my dad up, and then i'll be on my way. If anything, i'll rob my wifes GPS and travel solo, I'd just prefer not to go it alone since i've never made this trip. hit me up with some feedback. :-\
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unfortunatly my wife has to work, so i'm out.
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one thing though. could we push departure time to the right just a little. I hate to ask really, but i'm off going "gay duty" section. We get relieved at 0815, and then i gotta get home and drop off the duty bag, and pick my dad up, and then i'll be on my way. If anything, i'll rob my wifes GPS and travel solo, I'd just prefer not to go it alone since i've never made this trip. hit me up with some feedback. :-\
What time are we talking? 0845...0900... Any shot at getting a standby to come in early?
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Smaug1911
Kirksjeep
Mr rock
calvynandhobbs
tsunami
gearhead1985
WillC ?
IrishStPatrick
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Kirksjeep
Mr rock
calvynandhobbs
tsunami
gearhead1985
WillC ?
IrishStPatrick
Swagger
McLovin- a guy I knew from NR-1 that I ran into today. He has a 00 XJ, 6" long arm, 33's. He is going to call me on Friday to confirm.
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Kirk...you want to call me as you are about to take off?
I will meet you in Mugsy's parking lot.
460-0903
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sorry guys. Forget anything i said about me wheeling this weekend or changing the base itenerary. Got informed today that i will be handling weapons down in the torpedo room all F**K**G day!!!! >:( Great timing for weekend work, While my Effing parents are in town. so, sorry for any possible delays that i may have almost caused. I had my liberty chit routed, approved and dissapproved all in about 1.5 hours today. So have fun wheeling.
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sorry guys. Forget anything i said about me wheeling this weekend or changing the base itenerary. Got informed today that i will be handling weapons down in the torpedo room all F**K**G day!!!! >:( Great timing for weekend work, While my Effing parents are in town. so, sorry for any possible delays that i may have almost caused. I had my liberty chit routed, approved and dissapproved all in about 1.5 hours today. So have fun wheeling.
That's too bad. We would have enjoyed your company for this run. There will be others though.
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Kirk...you want to call me as you are about to take off?
I will meet you in Mugsy's parking lot.
460-0903
Will do.
Swagger- that sucks. If anything changes due to overtime costs for crane operators at the end of the fiscal year when there is no $$$ left in the budget, let us know. In my 7+ years in the Sub Force I have learned that what is scheduled is not always what happens. If last minute you find out you can go, look up either Roger's or my number in the members section and call us.
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will do kirk. But its not expected. we are only handling in the room on saturday. Gotta do t- checks after we get done with the flood/drain electrodes. but if i do get out early enough, you bet i'll be there.
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Looks like we have a fairly good sized group for Saturday. If you can post up where you are meeting the rest of the group at that would be great so that we don't leave anybody behind. Right now I have me and gearhead1985 meeting in Groton. Tsunami might be meeting there also depending on a passenger or not. IrishStPatrick, where do you plan to meet the group?
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I know that smaug1911, myself and McLovin (if he makes it) will all meet at Smith's and Rock is going to meet us at the Mobil.
IrsihStPatrick is a Navy guy that knows little Adam, so would assume they will meet in Groton.
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It looks like we might get some rain too, so be prepared ;). I will take the blame for the rain, it rains on 90% of the rides I go on, but it just makes it more challenging :P
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It looks like we might get some rain too, so be prepared ;). I will take the blame for the rain, it rains on 90% of the rides I go on, but it just makes it more challenging :P
I know, I just put the top and doors on the Jeep today for the first time since last week Sunday. It was great except for the hair left in my seat every morning from what I'm guessing is a neighborhood cat that decided my Jeep was a good place to sleep.
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IrishStPatrick mfp a starter for a 2.5 YJ cause someone stole his from The hobby shop any one got one lieing around so i can stuff it so he can go
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OK. i gotta make this quik. Schedule changed again, i can go. But i get relieved at 0800. I still have to pick up my dad from my house. I can play catch up if someone can get me the address to smiths 4x4. I'll monitor channel 10 on my CB, and let you guys know when i am close. please post on this thread the address so i can quickly look it up tomorrow morning while i'm changing out my rear seat for my wheeling trunk. If someone wants to wait behind in groton they can give me a call. My number is 713-213-8472. i plan on doing a quik change at my hous and being out of groton by about 0845. sorry for the delay, but my boat gave me an inch, so i'm taking a mile.
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Here is the address:
747 Route 32
North Franklin, CT 06254
If I can't fix whatever is causing my deathwobble tonight we'll be driving slow anyway and you'll probably catch us before we even get there.
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It looks like we might get some rain too, so be prepared ;). I will take the blame for the rain, it rains on 90% of the rides I go on, but it just makes it more challenging :P
I know, I just put the top and doors on the Jeep today for the first time since last week Sunday. It was great except for the hair left in my seat every morning from what I'm guessing is a neighborhood cat that decided my Jeep was a good place to sleep.
I just did the same last night, only no cat fur!
I'm still planning on meeting you guy's at the Mobil around 9:45, right?
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Yes, we are still planning on leaving the Groton Townhouse at 8:30 to head to Smiths. Swagger will probably catch us as we are making stops at different places to pick people up.
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Yes, we are still planning on leaving the Groton Townhouse at 8:30 to head to Smiths. Swagger will probably catch us as we are making stops at different places to pick people up.
Ok, just wanted to make sure, It's been a long week and I want to sleep in as long as I can!
Thanks for your number, I also have Kirks, so I'll be calling one of you if I'm running late.
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It looks like we might get some rain too, so be prepared ;). I will take the blame for the rain, it rains on 90% of the rides I go on, but it just makes it more challenging :P
I know, I just put the top and doors on the Jeep today for the first time since last week Sunday. It was great except for the hair left in my seat every morning from what I'm guessing is a neighborhood cat that decided my Jeep was a good place to sleep.
i have 2 of those around here, yeah, its the in thing for cats when the top is down, the 2 cats out here also like using the soft top as a hammok
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great run today!
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so, you guys found it?
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After a very nice guy came out to check his mail and we asked him, he was able to point us in the right directiion based on our limited memory of the entance, it turns out you enter from the North East, not the South West :P.
It was a good run, the weather held up and we only had a little carnage. McLovin broke an upper track bar mount and little Adam bent the crap out of a leaf spring. Both were repaired to allow them to drive home.
I hope Brian made it out ok, I think I saw his tracks as we finished the trail, but it was hard to tell.
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Good run today, i had a blast i made it all the way home with a broken trac bar mount and no death wobble so over all a good day.
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Good run today, i had a blast i made it all the way home with a broken trac bar mount and no death wobble so over all a good day.
That's better than me. I still have death wobble from 30-40mph, but I had that before i went on the run today. I'll have to figure it out soon.
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Good run today, i had a blast i made it all the way home with a broken trac bar mount and no death wobble so over all a good day.
That's better than me. I still have death wobble from 30-40mph, but I had that before i went on the run today. I'll have to figure it out soon.
Roger,
The death wobble can be cured. If you look at the front of your TJ, the the drag link ( bar that runs from the pitman arm to the tie rod) and the tie rod should be as parallel as possible. That might be achievable through a small drop pitman arm or a tie rod flip(like Kirk did) or a combination of both. Those two changes in conjunction with adjustable control arms will allow getting the camber back to within 3.5 and 4.5 degrees, will cure the death wobble. I would assume you already have a steering stabilizer. If you do all this and the wobble is still there, then the power steering box may need to be adjusted or replaced as the valves inside it can get worn. Hope this helps...
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Good run today, i had a blast i made it all the way home with a broken trac bar mount and no death wobble so over all a good day.
That's better than me. I still have death wobble from 30-40mph, but I had that before i went on the run today. I'll have to figure it out soon.
Roger,
The death wobble can be cured. If you look at the front of your TJ, the the drag link ( bar that runs from the pitman arm to the tie rod) and the tie rod should be as parallel as possible. That might be achievable through a small drop pitman arm or a tie rod flip(like Kirk did) or a combination of both. Those two changes in conjunction with adjustable control arms will allow getting the camber back to within 3.5 and 4.5 degrees, will cure the death wobble. I would assume you already have a steering stabilizer. If you do all this and the wobble is still there, then the power steering box may need to be adjusted or replaced as the valves inside it can get worn. Hope this helps...
Scott,
Mine is something that came all of a sudden. The TJ did not have deathwobble a month ago. It just showed up after the Mohawk run. I'll start with balancing the tires and move on from there. The TJ has a newer PSC steering box in it along with adjustible control arms with heim joints. I'll start with the lesser expensive items and move from there until I find the problem.
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Good run today, i had a blast i made it all the way home with a broken trac bar mount and no death wobble so over all a good day.
That's better than me. I still have death wobble from 30-40mph, but I had that before i went on the run today. I'll have to figure it out soon.
Roger,
The death wobble can be cured. If you look at the front of your TJ, the the drag link ( bar that runs from the pitman arm to the tie rod) and the tie rod should be as parallel as possible. That might be achievable through a small drop pitman arm or a tie rod flip(like Kirk did) or a combination of both. Those two changes in conjunction with adjustable control arms will allow getting the camber back to within 3.5 and 4.5 degrees, will cure the death wobble. I would assume you already have a steering stabilizer. If you do all this and the wobble is still there, then the power steering box may need to be adjusted or replaced as the valves inside it can get worn. Hope this helps...
Scott,
Mine is something that came all of a sudden. The TJ did not have deathwobble a month ago. It just showed up after the Mohawk run. I'll start with balancing the tires and move on from there. The TJ has a newer PSC steering box in it along with adjustible control arms with heim joints. I'll start with the lesser expensive items and move from there until I find the problem.
Ok, I didn't know it just started. Yeah, you may have taken a wheel weight off. I'd also look at where some of the steering componants and suspension links mount, you may have developed a crack somewhere during the Mohawk trip...
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yes, yes, yes. That felt good. My first wheelin trip in months, only my second since becoming a member (damn Boat), and it was friggin awsome. Good job to everyone with their quick on the spot fix-it solutions for flex and gearhead. I'm surprised that old red YJ made it out alive. Thanks to everyone that showed for a good time. Also, my dad would like to send his thanks for an awsome day. he really had a good time.
Roger, three words. Front End Alignment. That should fix the wobble. Atleast until you bounce down off of another big obstacle. The long term solution is a tie rod flip kit, that will parralell your steering linkage a bit better, taking it closer to factory geometry, which is when it will perform the best.
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Roger, three words. Front End Alignment. That should fix the wobble. Atleast until you bounce down off of another big obstacle. The long term solution is a tie rod flip kit, that will parralell your steering linkage a bit better, taking it closer to factory geometry, which is when it will perform the best.
You may not be too far off. I know my tie rod took a beating and it may have at Mohawk too. Just by looking at it I don't see any obvious bend that's not supposed to be there, but I wouldn't doubt that it's out of alignment. Nate mentioned Saturday that if when it starts happening I look at the tire and it looks like the rear of the tear is doing more shaking than the front it is more than likely control arm brackets, ball joints, etc from the backside of the axle. I looked today when it started up and it appears to be starting on the back of the tire so I'll have to look at it and see if I can find anything obvious.
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Roger i found the site that gave the most helping my death wobble that i spent way to much money trying to fix i hope it helps.
http://www.cherokeeforum.com/showpost.php?p=273822&postcount=6
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I got out fine after some wrong turns.
But I did have some damage.
Bent an inner tie rod on a rock going too fast on my way outta there.
And dented the bottom of my quarter panel behind the tire while was trying to make it up that hill climb
Still had fun, but should have opted out of running the trail when i knew I was on a tight schedule.
Anyhow...driving 90 minutes home with tires pointed in differetn directions was not something I want to do again.
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Anyhow...driving 90 minutes home with tires pointed in differetn directions was not something I want to do again.
Glad to here you made it home ok!
I made it home in time shower and make the wife's dinner reservations! I live for anotherday!!!
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little adam... wheres the vids n pics...
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Truck fixed. :)
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Truck fixed. :)
That was fast!
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Working on it Scott gave me the wrong cd