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The Mud Pit => Wrenching => Topic started by: TJ777 on June 26, 2009, 01:59:32 PM

Title: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: TJ777 on June 26, 2009, 01:59:32 PM
Yep when we went out last weekend I just now noticed I crushed my lower control arm bracket the one under the axle on the drivers side. I know I need to remove the whole axle and grid the bracket order new stronger one and weld them on.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 26, 2009, 02:10:52 PM
Yep when we went out last weekend I just now noticed I crushed my lower control arm bracket the one under the axle on the drivers side. I know I need to remove the whole axle and grid the bracket order new stronger one and weld them on.

it can be done with the axle in the truck
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: calvynandhobbs on June 26, 2009, 03:23:12 PM
Gearhead has that XJ that he is dismantling next Friday at the hobby shop and XJs share the same control arms with TJs. You could use some parts off that XJ to sleeve and strengthen your current arms if you don't want to invest much money into your TJ right now.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 26, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
Gearhead has that XJ that he is dismantling next Friday at the hobby shop and XJs share the same control arms with TJs. You could use some parts off that XJ to sleeve and strengthen your current arms if you don't want to invest much money into your TJ right now.
the xj may have a different gear ratio and may be a different f/end.  the dana 30's were high pinion, low pinion, tj's low pinion was a shorter length shaft then the xj low pinion, and the xj high pinion was reverse cut gears.  be careful if your going to swap the housing without checking them 1st.  at least make sure the gear ratio is the same.  or just weld on some new brackets. 
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: TJ777 on June 26, 2009, 04:01:11 PM
Its not the control arm its self its just the 2 brackets that the lower arm bolts into that is crushed. If there is anyone with the same front axle I would be interested in that as well seeing as my front diff was full of mudd and I still havent opened it to check it out.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: gearhead1985 on June 27, 2009, 03:31:21 AM
the axel i got has 3.55's and let me know what you want
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: calvynandhobbs on June 27, 2009, 03:43:44 PM
I read it wrong the first time. I thought it was the lower control arm. The bracket is flimsy on all of these D30 axles and you probably need the same upgrade that Paul did for Doug on his XJ. You could get the lower controls arms off of the XJ and cut the ends off. You could weld one inside the other to strengthen it. I've seen guys do that in the past when they wanted the extra strength, but weren't worried about extended them at all.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 27, 2009, 06:16:00 PM
I read it wrong the first time. I thought it was the lower control arm. The bracket is flimsy on all of these D30 axles and you probably need the same upgrade that Paul did for Doug on his XJ. You could get the lower controls arms off of the XJ and cut the ends off. You could weld one inside the other to strengthen it. I've seen guys do that in the past when they wanted the extra strength, but weren't worried about extended them at all.


it really is an easy upgrade, just make sure your control arm isn't bent so you can weld the bracket on straight lol.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: reptile610 on June 27, 2009, 06:47:35 PM
or that your garage has enough power for the welder
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 27, 2009, 06:48:37 PM
you mean that your breaker can support the welder??
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: reptile610 on June 27, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
yes ;D
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 28, 2009, 03:55:34 AM
yes ;D

you shoulda just held the breaker :D
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: BayouGold on June 30, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
if i remeber correctly i think justin bent his up at btc a while back.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on June 30, 2009, 03:15:32 AM
it doesn't take muck to break/bend them.  the factory control arm mounts arent thick enough to handle the stress we put through them as wheelers.  but the aftermarket ones are really easy to install.  with proper equipment you can have the whole project done in 3-4 hours.
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: Seabee_BUC on June 30, 2009, 04:36:07 PM
Before you attempt yo make this repair take this piece of advice ;). Do it right the first time!!! I can't stress it enough, don't half ass it by keeping the axle on the truck to weld it in. Take the axle down, line it up properly, measure twice and then weld it. The axle at full droop(truck jacked up so you can remove the current, bent control arm), or the truck sitting on the ground with a control arm removed may not allow the axle to sit exactly as it should to just line up the bracket. It's been my expierence that important installations such as control arm brackets require precise placement. And there are a couple guys in the club that can vouch for this advice...as I did their axle brackets! And if you're going to replace one bracket, just replace them all at once. Besides, the brackets should come in sets, not singles. Just my .02
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: TJ777 on July 01, 2009, 01:51:30 PM
Hey thanks yea as soon as I can order the aftermarket brackets I will be taking the whole axle off. Hopefully be able to use kirks monster garage. !HINT ! HINT!
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: kirksjeep on July 01, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Hey thanks yea as soon as I can order the aftermarket brackets I will be taking the whole axle off. Hopefully be able to use kirks monster garage. !HINT ! HINT!

Not a problem
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: reptile610 on July 05, 2009, 05:57:32 AM
they come in pairs. we didn't do all 4 of mine only the bottom 2 and we didn't take them out but if u can i would recommend it cause im pretty sure mine is like 1/8" off on one of them. not a problem for me but i have a bad feeling after i lift it i may to have to cut it off AGAIN!
Title: Re: Crushed control arm bracket.
Post by: PaulW on July 10, 2009, 03:22:04 AM
they come in pairs. we didn't do all 4 of mine only the bottom 2 and we didn't take them out but if u can i would recommend it cause im pretty sure mine is like 1/8" off on one of them. not a problem for me but i have a bad feeling after i lift it i may to have to cut it off AGAIN!

i've never had to do the uppers.  just the lowers.  you should be ok it'll still align. b if it's off that far then hog out the hole.