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The Mud Pit => Vids and Pics => Topic started by: BlacXJeep on September 04, 2009, 12:24:13 AM
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Electric windows wouldn't work. Cold ride home at midnight from work. Wonder if this had much to do with it? Time to patch the floorboard and Herculine.... ya wow
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is that from the windshield leaking? If it is, you might consider calling around and having the windshield pulled and resealed. Since the glass is good, I wouldn't imagine it would cost too much. If you could find a safelite guy installing a windshield you might be able to convince him to do it under the table since it would only be labor and a little sealant.
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Yeah its that spot that all cherokees leak in, there and in the rear drivers side through the stock cargo rack hole. I'm going to take all the carpet out and herc it with floor drain plugs. Then it can rain in there all day long! But yeah, that may be something to consider. just not a priority on my budget. I'm not excactly sure if its the windsheild, it seems to drip right onto my left knee almost as if it were coming through the top of the drivers side window, and sometimes even drips through the headliner. So I'll have to try to isolate it more before I have someone re-seal my windshield. Its also very intermittent and the carpet will just seem to mysteriously get damp without physically seeing any water dripping.
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If it was leaking into the passenger front floorboard I'd tell you that it's coming in from the cowl. After a hard rain I sometimes had 2-3" of standing water on my floorboard. That is why I ripped the carpet out and bedlined the whole thing. You can hear the road noise a little more, but the water just sits on top when it does get wet. The only problem is in summer. If you get a lot of water in there and then it heats up the next day you end up with water on the inside of the windows where its trying to evaporate. This past winter I also had a couple mornings where I had to scrape the inside and outside of the front window.
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If it was leaking into the passenger front floorboard I'd tell you that it's coming in from the cowl. After a hard rain I sometimes had 2-3" of standing water on my floorboard. That is why I ripped the carpet out and bedlined the whole thing. You can hear the road noise a little more, but the water just sits on top when it does get wet. The only problem is in summer. If you get a lot of water in there and then it heats up the next day you end up with water on the inside of the windows where its trying to evaporate. This past winter I also had a couple mornings where I had to scrape the inside and outside of the front window.
Yeah ive had 2 inches of standing water in my huskyliner floor mats on the drivers side only though. And that was in the spring when it was raining like crazy all the time. I have to say I just laughed pretty hard picturing you scraping the inside of your windows. haha. I'm just happy my windowns work again, and that the hole in the floorboard was minimal.( about the size of a quarter)
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There's nothing like sitting in your seat with the ice scraper and getting shavings all over the dash and your lap at 6am before you go to work.
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one time after it had been freezing raining and then gotten colder through the night, my jetta GLI had been frozen to the ground. The front lip spoiler was frozen to the ground, just a big block of ice and snow. Had class so ended up with a chisel and a hammer to brake it free. That was about the same time I decide to buy an XJ. Low profile tires and ground kits don't work well in the snow. ;D
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tisk tisk.... im so glad this doesn't happen to mine ;D by the way, jeep go here today. lots of little projects are going to happen in the next couple weeks. pics to follow. much love from hawaii i miss all of you :'(
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Maybe not yet RJ, but it will so watch out! keep in mind mines a 93.
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My 91 Jetta had a leak and several times I had to scrape the inside of my windshield. I keept an used up giftcard to use a scrapper. That car was such a POS.
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i think im going to bedline the floor before hand BTW! not the place to put this but we found the clunking noise. it's the track bar mount.
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So I took out all 3 seats and all the stinky moldy rusty carpet. I found more rusty spots so I cut them out. One spot above the Cat was so bad I had to cut out a section at least 15'' x 6''. Patched each hole (about 7 in total). Sanded the crap out of the entire tub, swept it and hozed it down, wiped it down with Mek, and sprayed alot of that rustoleum rust converter stuff. I then Herculined the entire thing, to include the back of the rear seat. This way when I fold it down the entire rear end is herced. Heres pics.
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how long did it take you to do? and their are no pics :'(
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pics are up now and I dunno probably at least 8 hours. But you need to leave it alone to let it dry overnight.
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Looks really good!!! Good Idea doing it now and not waiting for winter.
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i think my drivers seat may have fell through the floor had I waited haha.
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It looks great. Here are the pics of when I did my XJ. I didn't have any holes in my floors yet. I just had a little surface rust, but nothing that had to be repaired.
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You'll love the fact that the water will just sit on top and wipe out rather than soaking into carpets and staying wet against the floors for weeks.
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what kind of bedliner did you use, it looks a lot smoother? I left the two drain holes under the seats unplugged for now so any water that gets in the back will run down the slope and hopefully out them. I'll put the plugs back in for water crossings.
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you didn't weld the patches in?
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yeah whats a good bedliner to use?
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yeah whats a good bedliner to use?
undercoating works pretty good. and it's only 4.50 a can... ;D
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you didn't weld the patches in?
I don't have a welder, nor do I know how to use one so I used what I had. lol. I think it will be ok for a while
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you didn't weld the patches in?
I'm noticing you really like rivets! ;D Great job though! you'll love not getting into it with mud all over your feet and sliding across the floor...Looks great with the interior all in place too!
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I would not use undercoating on the inside of a vehicle. Most or them never harden completely and are oily so if you put a bag on the floor it could end up turning black. I don't remember what brand I used, but I know I bought it at Walmart in a gallon can. I put it on with paint brushes because I had read that using rollers makes it come out rougher for providing an anti-skid surface. I had to put a couple coats on it since paint brushes don't apply it real thick and I used figure 8 motions for applying so that I wouldn't get lines.
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you didn't weld the patches in?
I'm noticing you really like rivets! ;D Great job though! you'll love not getting into it with mud all over your feet and sliding across the floor...Looks great with the interior all in place too!
They are self tapping metal screws, I'm too cheap for rivets also. lol
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I would not use undercoating on the inside of a vehicle. Most or them never harden completely and are oily so if you put a bag on the floor it could end up turning black. I don't remember what brand I used, but I know I bought it at Walmart in a gallon can. I put it on with paint brushes because I had read that using rollers makes it come out rougher for providing an anti-skid surface. I had to put a couple coats on it since paint brushes don't apply it real thick and I used figure 8 motions for applying so that I wouldn't get lines.
I too have never had much luck with undercoasting on the inside. I used it in my first YJ and it rubbed off pretty easy. I have used the Dupli-color truck bed liner for two differnt Jeeps and both times I was very happy with the reults. For a rougher texture you can use the roller designed to apply the coating, it kind of pulls up on the coating as it goes acrossed it and makes a non-slip texture. When applied by the spray cans it isn't as smooth as using a paint brush, but isn't as rough as using the roller.
From what I have found Walmart has it the cheapest, but thats not a big surprise :-X
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undercoating was more of a joke for RJ. It doesn't harden, in the sun it melts and becomes sticky, and if you spill any kind of solvent on it, it "washes" off and becomes more of a sticky mess then when it gets hot. I tried to line a truck bed with it before. big waste of time.
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undercoating was more of a joke for RJ. It doesn't harden, in the sun it melts and becomes sticky, and if you spill any kind of solvent on it, it "washes" off and becomes more of a sticky mess then when it gets hot. I tried to line a truck bed with it before. big waste of time.
Now that makes sense. I was trying to figure out why you would recommend undercoating inside a rig.
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undercoating was more of a joke for RJ. It doesn't harden, in the sun it melts and becomes sticky, and if you spill any kind of solvent on it, it "washes" off and becomes more of a sticky mess then when it gets hot. I tried to line a truck bed with it before. big waste of time.
Now that makes sense. I was trying to figure out why you would recommend undercoating inside a rig.
i need to be careful with him though, he's very easily influenced.
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idk im just looking for more stuff i should do to complete my jeep.
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idk im just looking for more stuff i should do to complete my jeep.
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How about having a Rhino Liner sprayed in? I have been wondering if I should replace the fabric with a liner of some sort.
My other question is, how hard is it to remove the seats out of a TJ? I have thought about doing it so I can run wires but I have hesitated due to my familiarity with Murphy's laws. We tend to hang around the same places often. :-[
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Don't know about a TJ Chuck, but my XJ only required removing 12 bolts and the seats came right out.
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How about having a Rhino Liner sprayed in? I have been wondering if I should replace the fabric with a liner of some sort.
My other question is, how hard is it to remove the seats out of a TJ? I have thought about doing it so I can run wires but I have hesitated due to my familiarity with Murphy's laws. We tend to hang around the same places often. :-[
Having the Rhino Liner sprayed in will cost you a couple hundred $$. It's much cheaper to do it yourself. If you want a rough, non-skid texture you can roll it on. If you want smooth and slippery you can use paint brushes. If you know somebody that has a spray gun that will handle bedliner you can have them spray it for you or you can buy bedliner in cans to spray. I haven't taken the seats or interior out of a TJ yet, but I'm going to be in the near future. I plan on putting my carpet back in over the top of the bedliner to help with road noise and from dirt flying around the inside of the Jeep.
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yeah i did notice that rogers xjs floor was abit slick with shoes. i think i almost fell outta it when trying to climb in once. i think im going to go for the happy medium and go with the spray cans. BTW since we hijacked dueces thread. hows yours holding up?
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its holding up great, and I would hope so for $90 a gallon!!!
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JESUS! how many gallons did yours take?
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yeah i did notice that rogers xjs floor was abit slick with shoes. i think i almost fell outta it when trying to climb in once.
Thats what you get for not wearing your car seat when riding with your Dad ;)
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had he been wearing his velcro ninja turtle shoes when this happened he wouldn't have fallen. Roger you have to make sure this little tot is properly dressed for the trail! osh kosh bgosh overalls are a must!
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actually i shoulda worn boots and not shoes.