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Jeep doors on base

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Gastank:
Sandbox is right. It is Driver's side and either the Pass or the window. I can't believe that they started doing that. That's retarded!

Axle:
I'm pretty sure it was just some junior guys flexing their newly found positional authority, and invoking their OFP (own f***ing program).

Doball:
So last night around 1745 I was coming on base when the seaman MA stopped me and asked....Where my doors were. To which I replied, ther're not required. It was actually pretty funny watching him get spun up because I was questioning his knowledge and authority. To make a long story short I wound up down at the cop shop, and the DoD civillian SGT couldn't find the instruction that required Jeep doors. He did tell me it was an OPNAVINST, the same one that covered motorcycles and it had just changed about 4 weeks ago.

So OPNAVINST 5100.12H from 28 June 2008 says NOTHING about doors required on vehicles. I'm calling legal today to find out what the current DoD and Navy traffic instructions are so we are citing the correct references, but I think we are going to win this one, untill the make a subase rule change.

Axle:
Good deal!

Doball:
Results of my phone calls.




-----Original Message-----
From: Armstrong, Brenda A. CDR RLSO MIDLANT DET GROTON
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:39
To: Duran, Joshua STS1 NAVSUBSCOL, N33A1 TRAINER INSTRS
Subject: FW: TRAFFIC REGS

STS1 Doehring, per our discussion.  BAA

-----Original Message-----
From: Stevens, Chris CIV SUBASE
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:29
To: Armstrong, Brenda A. CDR RLSO MIDLANT DET GROTON
Cc: Pheasant, Scott A LT Subase NWLN, Security; McQuain, Cecil F MACS CNRMA, Security; Greener, Jerry E MACS SUBASE New London, N35
Subject: FW: TRAFFIC REGS

CDR, researched and found nothing that would stop anyone from coming aboard the base without doors on their vehicle.  I will ensure that this gets out to our personnel.  Hope this helps.

Maj


Major Chris A. Stevens
Precinct Commander
SUBASE Police Department
Box 38, Groton CT 06349
WP: 860 694-3533
DSN: 694-3533
CP: 860 625-9922
chris.stevens@navy.mil



-----Original Message-----
From: Armstrong, Brenda A. CDR RLSO MIDLANT DET GROTON
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 13:40
To: Pheasant, Scott A LT Subase NWLN, Security
Cc: Stevens, Chris CIV SUBASE
Subject: TRAFFIC REGS

Lt Pheasant,

Could you please help me with a traffic issue? I'm standing in for the SUBASE SJA at the moment.

I got a call from a sailor who was told that he could not drive his jeep on base without the doors.  When he asked about what regulation prohibited this, the police officer did not know.  The petty officer then asked the shift supervisor and was told that it was a new regulation, but the supervisor could not find it or give a citation to it.  I could not find this rule either, although I think doors are a good idea. 

Is there a new rule (or old rule) on this issue?  Thanks.  BAA

B. A. ARMSTRONG
CDR, JAGC, USN

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