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BayouGold:
Hey again everybody
    I guess this is where I get to pic your collective brains for technical issues. Like I stated in my introduction, I have an '01 TJ that's about half civilized. Currently I have a 3" Teraflex lift sitting on 31" MT/R's. In the next 3-4 months I plan on having a winch, 33's & be another inch off the ground. That said, here's my dilema. I keep going back & forth on whether to go for a 4" long arm kit or just upgrade the springs on the short arm kit I already have. Obviously that's the cheapest route. If any of you would share your experiences with long arm kits or your overall opinions I'd appreciate it.

 P.S.  My nickname is The Dingus or just Dingus

mallcrawl:
I'd go with this body lift (replaces the whole bodybushing instead of putting a silly little puck on top of it) http://www.quadratec.com/products/16053_401.htm
and a 1" Motor mount lift, that straigtens out the rear driveshaft a little for less vibes without losing any clearance. otherwise ae you cross the 4" mark you need to do things like slip yoke eliminators and cv driveshafts, if you still intend on driving on the street.

Axle:
http://jt4x4.com/smf/index.php?topic=353.0


Geoff, check out Cnote tj's rig.  He has a 4" long arm and it looks pretty flexible.  Just my opinion, I would go with a long arm kit and gears/lockers upgrade before I went with a winch.  Since that's pretty much what I'm doing now, my opinion is kinda one sided.  It really depends on what you want your rig to able to handle.  There are plenty of guys in the club with the type of lift you have or are looking at, and I'm sure they can give you better advice.  I'm pretty new to the sport myself, and I'm still learning alot.

Seabee_BUC:
 Here's my $.02. 
If you have a 3" lift already, you should be fine with 33x12.50 tires. Really. We run a 3.5" Rubicon Express lift and ours flexes real well and with 33's, we have zero rubbing problems with room to spare. With a long arm lift you will be adding a lot more adjustments that require constant maintenance (right Axle???  ::)). The benefit of a long arm kit is only really noticable if you are looking to go 5.5" to 6" and 35" tires. I'd keep the suspension where its at and see how a 33 moves in your wheel well. If you find at full flex you have some issues, a 1" body lift would cure it. But that too creates problems in itself. Remember too, the taller you go, there will be changes in how it handles, be prepared to deal with more body roll, more creaks and strange noises, and the ride really doesn't get any better. Again, just my thoughts...

Doball:
It all depends on your budget. If you've got the extra $2500 go with the long arm. Any LA kit will give you better road stability, and better performance off road. If you're gonna go with a 4" I'd make sure it's the same arms as a 6" kit so if you want to go bigger later all you have to do is buy 6" springs and new shocks. I would avoid Skyjacker, and Pro Comp way too much $$$ when you can get as good or better product from other companies for a few hundred cheaper. There's more suppliers out there than quadrapetech. Sorry Brice, but I would avoid a body lift, unless you're just going for height and tire clearance. Body lifts do not provide any suspension performance upgrades = waste of money unless all you want is bigger tires.

As for brands I'm running a Full Traction Ultimate 4" short arm. When I  can afford an upgrade I'm going with their 6" Long arm. They both use a 3 link rear. Gets rid of the rear track bar and upper control arms.
My current lift   http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=13115
My future lift  http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=13091

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