High Steer for Dana 30, both YJ and TJ

[kirksjeep]

I found this site tonight and would like to get some opinions.  For $25 including shipping, plus some work, I could flip the tie rod to the top of the the king pin which will "help" keep it away from rocks.  With anything there is always a comprimise, but I'm not sure what it would be in this case except I would have $25 less in my pocket.

http://www.goferitoffroad.com/products.htm

[PaulW]

"weld the lip and you are ready to go."

I'd be leary of this, steel doesn't weld to cast to well.

[kirksjeep]

So I did some more research last night and here is what I found:

The sleeves are more of a press fit and the welds just are tacks to make sure they don't come out.  This set up helps restore almost stock steering geometry and I would have to put the stock pitman arm back on.  Some of the guys that installed this, had to either ditch the steering stabilizer because they had no room, or run it at an angle.  Some guys that installed it used 4 insters, two for the tie rod ends, one for the drag link to tie rod connection and one for the steering stabilizer to tie rod connection.  Other just used two and rotated the ends of the tie rod and didn't have to change out the drag link and stabilizer connections.  All the posts of other forums that have installed this have had all positive comments. 

My first priority is to get these new axles in, but this might be my next project.

[PaulW]

Pics dude.

[kirksjeep]

Here is a link to a guy that did the swap with pics and his comments:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=610438&highlight=tie+rod+flip

[PaulW]

seeing it installed doesn't look so bad afterall.

[footman]

Hey Kirk, if you do end up ordering these let me know if I can place an order yours. 

[kirksjeep]

Will Do.  I will most likely place an order in early January, IF, I every get these axles done.   I am headed to Maryland tomorrow and won't be back until Jan 2nd.  Hopefully I can finish up the axles project before stand down ends.  I did just order some poly tie rod boots since mine are looking a little rough and I figure it will be a good time to change them out when I do the tie rod flip.  If enough people are interested, I will contact Goferit and see it we can get a club/bulk discount. 

[Seabee_BUC]

It says that TJ's require a modification of the sway bar disconnect...I wonder what that is...

[HOT-ROD]

sketchy.

just be very sure.

[kirksjeep]

I've read several positive write ups on YJ forums.  The only caution I have found is to use a scrap piece of steel to test the fit the sleeve with the 3/4" drill bit. 

[kirksjeep]

I am just about finished with flipping my tie rod.  I bought 3 inserts a few weeks back and just got around to it.  I bought a 3/4" drill bit from Lowes and used a lot of WD-40 as cutting fluid, took my time and drilled out the knuckles.  It was a little scary at first!!  When I got close to the bottom of the knuckle with the drill bit I left just a sliver of metal, and then used a hammer to make it a press fit.  I welded the inserts in, cleaned up the welds and gave them a shot of paint.  While I was at it I installed my poly tie rod boots and put a boot on my steering stabilizer.  Every thing but the steering stabilizer is back in.  To keep the stabilizer at less of an angle I need to fab up a spacer.  The tie rod sits 3" taller, which should help keep it off the rocks, and with the drop pitman arm the steering geometry is pretty close to stock by my calculated eye ball.  I haven't taken it for a test drive yet so I can't report on bump steer, but in theory it should eliminate all bump steer. 

[Swagger]

so thus far, total cost of this little upgrade is.......?

[calvynandhobbs]

This is another upgrade I'd like to do to my XJ. A couple guys that I know that are big XJ guys said that anything more than 5" of lift really needs the flip to the top. The drop pitman arm just won't do it and I do have more wander in my steering than I would really like. It's on the list, but quite a ways down.

[PaulW]

sounds like it was actually a good system!